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Mint 03-01-2009 05:49 PM

Calling All the Long-Haired Wavies
 
Hey everyone! My hair is about 2-3 inches away from my tailbone and it's been getting less wavy as it grows longer. If I add product to wet hair and let it air dry undisturbed for the rest of the day it has a loose, weak wave pattern. The water weighs it down I guess? I tried diffusing with a little leave-in and lots of mousse and it didn't do much then (stringy, limp, almost-straight waves).

The only way I can get a good wave in my hair is by...

1. Braiding damp hair with a leave-in (gel/mousse too if I want less frizz) at night and taking it out in the morning (this lasts all day and longer)

2. Putting my hair in a ponytail while damp at night with leave-in and taking it out in the morning (good 2a waves with so-so clumping so I need to comb it out)

3. Combing dry hair for less tangles/frizzies and better clumps, then putting little bit of water on the canopy, scrunching, then adding gel. 2a and sometimes 2b, this comes out the best for me.

I'm sometimes unsure if my hair is still naturally wavy or just pliable. It takes forever and a day to dry. I found some low-maintenance ways to style my hair, but I'm wondering if there's a better way.

What do you long-haired wavies do to style your hair?

helloitsio 03-01-2009 07:14 PM

I pretty much just use gel and diffuse with a Sedusa. I've tried my hand at mousse a few times but it's never really worked out for me - I need gel to give me the hold and crunch my hair needs. I don't air dry because it takes forever and a day to dry and it loosens my wave pattern.

My hair is BSL when dry and upper small of my back when wet.

Mint 03-03-2009 03:22 PM

Thanks helloitsio, I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't a big fan of mousse. :lol: I should try gel and diffusing again soon but it takes forever to do that too (especially cool air) and heat is damaging. Although that could give me a use for that VO5 heat protectant spray... :p

helloitsio 03-03-2009 06:37 PM

Yeah, not a mousse fan here. Such a shame because I've got some JoiWhip, PM mousse, and the Clairol mousse that have all been discussed on the boards. :sad1: I actually diffuse daily on a warm setting at medium speed and I don't notice any damage to my hair. If anything, I feel like the gel cast protects the hair shaft from any damage. I could be wrong though.

Jess the Mess 03-03-2009 08:23 PM

I hate mousse. I have tried it so many times and just hate the way it feels on my hair. I always end up throwing it out. I diffuse every day too and have no heat damage. I use high heat and the medium speed and have no problems but it may be like Helloitsio said, the gel might protect. Also if you diffuse to about 80% dry instead of all the way it really cuts down on the time and helps with no heat damage. Helloitsio how do you like your Sedusa? I have read so many mixed reviews that I'm wary of buying it but my regular deep bowl diffuser isn't working so well now that my hair is so long.

helloitsio 03-03-2009 09:55 PM

I really like it. I do feel that it helps to form the waves better. There is a bit of a trial and error when first starting out with it because your hair can easily tangle in the spiral tines, but once you get the hang of it, its a breeze. What's also great is that it helps dry my roots as well. I still use my Devafuser to really get under the canopy and get close to the roots but the Sedusa starts things off right.

Mint 03-04-2009 01:20 PM

I agree with both of you that gel can protect the hair. They often have ingredients like benzophenone-4 that serve as heat protectants. I'm definitely giving this another shot before I give up on diffusing.

JayJae 03-09-2009 07:00 PM

my hair is mid-back length, but i have a similar hair type as you.

i can't use mousse either in the long run because it's drying, but i do like that it freezes my waves better. even though my hair is coarse, i notice i have to be careful how much product i put in my hair or else it'll be too heavy and my hair will just look unkempt. =T i'm learning gel with a touch of cream styler works best for my hair, though i'm still playing w/ the right amounts. once upon a time aveda be curly cream was perfect for my hair. too bad it broke out my skin.

it's been several years since i've had my hair this long so i'm relearning how to evenly apply product...grrr!

Mint 03-10-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJae (Post 900635)
my hair is mid-back length, but i have a similar hair type as you.

i can't use mousse either in the long run because it's drying, but i do like that it freezes my waves better. even though my hair is coarse, i notice i have to be careful how much product i put in my hair or else it'll be too heavy and my hair will just look unkempt. =T i'm learning gel with a touch of cream styler works best for my hair, though i'm still playing w/ the right amounts. once upon a time aveda be curly cream was perfect for my hair. too bad it broke out my skin.

it's been several years since i've had my hair this long so i'm relearning how to evenly apply product...grrr!

I feel your pain, especially with the bolded. It seems that every mousse I've tried is drying, even though it can give incredibly soft, shiny hair the first day (cough, PANTENE, cough). Is your hair straight on top like mine? I can't put any product in that area because it barely has any volume and would look greasy (hairspray is the exception and MAYBE some hard-hold gel).

JayJae 03-11-2009 12:14 AM

ah, my straight parts are underneath, though in the back it is VERY loose waves (all the pretty waves are in front around my face). i don't know what to do w/ the straight section of my hair either, LOL.

helloitsio 03-11-2009 09:49 AM

I have the same problem and unfortunately, there really isn't much you can do other than having your stylist cut the straighter under layer a bit shorter than the canopy and scrunching, scrunching, scrunching away. I've been mod CG for almost and year and a half and while the canopy has gotten wavier, I can't get the bottom to cooperate. The best I can get is a little wave at the ends so it blends in a bit better.

JayJae 03-12-2009 12:27 AM

I've had the straight section cut shorter before, and I found I didn't like it so much when I wanted to straighten my hair. What I actually do with that section is finger comb it out after my hair has dried. That way it doesn't look stringy and weird compared to the rest of my hair.

Makes me wonder how people cope when their canopy is the straighter section.

Robin-in-FL 03-29-2009 02:50 PM

Well I cut mine, but
 
Well, I just cut a foot-and-a-half off my hair and it does curl back up now, so likely if yours is long and thick it will be hard to keep curls in because it's just so heavy. But - when mine was so long (hip length) it did curl from the middle down when I washed it, but those curls were messy and not too attractive since I couldn't put much product (so much hair and also better to treat very long hair very gently). I washed once a week and kept it braided once it dried - the one big braid straightened the hair out and by about day 3 it was smooth and pretty nice.

If your hair dries reasonably fast (mine doesn't) I'd definitely recommend a few braids as a good way to set it and give nice smooth waves. You won't need anything at the bottom to hold the braids if your hair is very long and wavy.

Editing to add, my underneath hair is straight too. It makes me kinda crazy, DH says it's my soft underfur under the coarse guard hairs.

WavingNotCurling 04-08-2009 04:29 PM

This thread just saved me from cutting all my hair off. One thread CAN make all the difference.

Thanks to all you long haired wavy girls, for giving me hope that I CAN grow this mop out and still have it look nice.

Mint 04-11-2009 11:40 PM

Thanks for your stories everyone! I'm managing wet hair fine at the moment with braids (with leave-in condish and mousse or gel) or sleeping on it (while wet, loose and full of leave-in conditioner), waking up, combing and defining it with gel in the morning. I have split ends but I don't want to trim for a while because I'm so close!!

I'm glad you got some inspiration from my thread, WavingNotCurling. :thumbleft:

micol124 04-12-2009 12:17 AM

not to guano the thread, but helloiysio... hello hair twin!!! Other than the color, your hair behaves just like mine :) I'm just lazy with pictures...

helloitsio 04-12-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by micol124 (Post 934038)
not to guano the thread, but helloiysio... hello hair twin!!! Other than the color, your hair behaves just like mine :) I'm just lazy with pictures...

Hiya! Your hair is so pretty! If I attempted shorter hair like yours I would definitely lose some wave. You're so lucky!

hmixon 04-13-2009 04:16 PM

What's your definition of long?

I had waist length hair until a month ago and found that nothing, no products etc could really give me much curl. I'd get little curly ringlets at the end, very loose waves in the middle but FLAT TOP which I hated. I never did diffuse my whole head coz I'm lazy and I have thick hair and it would have taken a long time. But all the weight straightened out all the curl and most of the wave. And it took FOREVER to air dry .

Then I got layered cut to BSL with layers to shoulder length. I feel like I have short hair now since losing a foot was drastic. But everyone still thinks I have long hair!

I have to say that I love it shorter- all the products actually work now!! I have lots of curl - the cut took me from 2a in front and 2c in back to 2c in front and 3a in back!! It's really fun and flippy now. I had waist long hair for 12 years!!

I m not advocating a cut- but I do suggest layers if you want more curl. Hellisto has beautiful long layers-- so does curly in FL. I think layers really help with curl.

Also- I still have a flat canopy/straighter hair on top and IT IS REALLY A PAIN!!! Considering even shorter layers to get rid of even more weight......So I appreciate the comment on how do we handle that- I'd love to have the straighter part under. Oh how I long for root curls and volume!

anonymous_125408 10-05-2012 12:36 PM

Any long haired wavies care to pick up this thread and chime in a bit more? I'm pretty new here and still looking for advice/tips... but it seems like, looking at most the signatures, the majority of people here are curly not wavy (nothing wrong with that of course, I just am hoping to find more styling ideas/tips for long wavy hair) and even some of the "wavies" look awfully curly to me lol.

Corrina777 10-05-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tr3kkie9rl (Post 2046788)
Any long haired wavies care to pick up this thread and chime in a bit more? I'm pretty new here and still looking for advice/tips... but it seems like, looking at most the signatures, the majority of people here are curly not wavy (nothing wrong with that of course, I just am hoping to find more styling ideas/tips for long wavy hair) and even some of the "wavies" look awfully curly to me lol.


There tends to be varying opinions of wavy vs curly. I thought I was a 2c when I first joined last year. But the main thing to remember is that hair properties (texture, porosity, density, elasticity) make much more of a difference in products and even techniques than curl pattern. My hair twin has 2b waves, but we have such identical results from products that if she likes something it's pretty much a guarantee that I'll like it too.

Also, there are a number of wavies who have stopped frequenting this site due to some issues earlier this year. There's a thread buried in this forum somewhere called "hey wavies, have you seen this?" with info for the FB group.

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