Gah, when I went to Devachan a couple weeks ago I spent a fortune on Deva curl products, including the new Ultra defining gel and now I wish I hadn't, because it make my hair stiff and weighed down. I have to wait and go through some of these fail products before I can spend a dime on anything else. booooo (I think i like the frizz free volumizing foam though)
But I'm gonna write down your fav gels to try for when I run out of this crap... maybe I can water it down or something.