Hi, Jodi, I was using it alone but by the end of the day my hair was too soft, it "collapsed". So I started using a bit of gel underneath it - Biotera gel. This is a departure for me as I used to use a gel OVER a mousse - but the Deva method uses a gel, then mousse. I have not tried to reverse it. I really like the foam. YOu can "adjust" your hair with it - add more even when it is dry - without it becoming frizzy or crispy. At least, I can.