Thanks so much I think I will try the Coffee Cream lite, that sounds promising. I've tried John Masters organic gel, its what my stylist always uses, but it leaves my hair very crunchy which I don't care for. I've tried the Pillow Soft creme by Miss Jessies, and the Aveda curl enhancer cream. They are all fine but the Miss Jessies product smell like perfumes and the Aveda is a bit heavy. I will look up the product you recommend. Thanks again!