I think it's pretty long in this pics right? And volume, I so wish I could get some around my face....man that part is fine and lays flat...longer than my jaw and that part gets stringy. I have to fluff upside down and put my fingers under it just to make it look not plastered to my head.
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.