I think it's pretty long in this pics right? And volume, I so wish I could get some around my face....man that part is fine and lays flat...longer than my jaw and that part gets stringy. I have to fluff upside down and put my fingers under it just to make it look not plastered to my head.

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.