Thanks for the advice... I try gel sometimes and maybe I'm using the wrong brand, but it just makes my hair really sticky... my hair will hold the curls for a day or so but after its just sticky and gross (and i need it to stay for at least a week because i don't have time to wait for it to dry during the week)... it's probably because I bought L.A. Looks which was probably a bad idea.. does ecostyler give the same effect? and how long do your curls typically last with and without the gel?