My hair got really shiny after maybe my second CG wash but then I hadn't been using sulfates for years so it wasn't as dehydrated as it could've been. Giving up the silicones though, now that made a big difference in my shine levels. My hair is much shinier curly than it ever was straight which seems to defy logic! (And physics.) But I'd rather my hair look soft and natural than styled and artificially shiny too. It's a toss up because I like the tighter curls I get with some hard hold gels but the crunch is such a turn off. I just hate the sensation of crunch scraping past my shoulder. Blech!