I also don't get a lot of curl because I'm 2a/b, and I try to get as much moisture as I can with a leave-in. It feels much more natural. I find that Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel gives me more curls but also has a too strong hold, a bit too crunchy for me. Other than that, I agree with the others: the less product the better. My rule of thumb is to never use more than 3 products. For some reason, after 3 products my hair does whatever it wants: frizz, no curl, greasy, etc.