With enough effort- the perfect combination of multiple products and techniques- I can make my hair look curly and "perfect." This frustrates me though because I don't want to have to completely manipulate every aspect of my hair for it to look good, I want t work with what I actually have. My hair is a 2b/2cish when I use minimal product and scrunching. I'd rather leave it wavy than put all that effort into making it more curly. It's more practical for me.