Thank you, chloe92us. Back in the 90's I had the hair that everyone wanted....lol. I worked in a hair salon and so many customers were getting perms and asking for their hair to look just like mine. I tried to think back on what I used then and it was mousse--so my hair really does respond better to a foamy-er type product. I'm going to try the HE Totally Twisted Mousse you mentioned.
I like lots and lots of volume, with some clumping but not too much as more clumping makes my hair less voluminous. Like you, I want a good hold but not so much crunch--or at least crunch that can be scrunched out. It seems like we are looking for the same thing as out hair reacts the same way to gels and mousses.
The Suave Captivating Curls makes my hair kind of dull--so I am looking for volume, some hold, crunch-free, shiny and frizz free. I am not sure such a product exists but I aim to find it!
I think I'll try mousses first, no cremes, no gels based on your recommendations. Gels might work better for me in the summer when the dewpoints are higher--we'll see.
I've heard great things about the homemade flax seed gel, but honestly I just don't have time to make it. I'd rather buy it. Was Botticelli Botanicals the one that had a flaxseed product that a lot of members like? Seems like I had that in my notes somewhere.
I'm gonna have to do a destash as I have no more room, for all of these hair products. Plus I am pretty certain my daughter thinks I need a "hair products hoarder intervention"....lol.