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Old 04-10-2013, 11:19 AM   #3
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My hair gets like that with Ecostyler. It's not good. With KCCC too if I dont use a gel over the top.
I need a hard hold gel to get good definition. I use LA Looks Sport gel
Also over conditioning can cause mushy hair.
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