I may try mixing it in with a leave in first, but I am currently needing to find a better one since mine has cones and maybe a few other things it shouldn't anyway.

My only concern is that I still have trouble getting it distributed in my hair without breaking up my curls and causing frizz. I find I honestly get the best results when I barely touch it even for my LI. I use so little of that I am ok with it barely distributing usually. I feel like to get the MO on I would really want to concentrate on the frizziest parts which are the worst if I touch them at all.

I'll have to figure that out firefox. I am still trying to decide on gel... I pulled out an old one I used to use today to try and not sure I like it though it's pretty cone heavy. I don't really know when I should use the gel though. Today I tried after plopping because I think it would cause less than stellar results on my fine hair before plopping but I feel like the sealing should be done before. I dunno.
Originally Posted by awelcome
You can't really make a decision on what techniques work if your products are not CG. Silicones for many of us either drag down curl or leaves you with ill defined curls/ frizz or both, whereas a styler/ gel very much helps you create and hold clumps.

I picked up one technique/ product at a time when I started, until eventually I came to accept CG works best as a full system, with logical modifications if that is not working. You are identifying that you need mineral oil to seal, yet you are already using silicones to seal. CG hair clumps due to hydration but you are not using the products that work towards that goal.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect