I can't use any gels at all. glycerin no glyc. Protein no protein. cones no cones. aloe no aloe.I've used every gel I can probably think of that is cheap and cg. I cannot use any gel cos it dries my hair out no matter what. I loove mouse. My hair stays defined and not limp and not crunchy at all. I use pretty much all the herbal essence mouses.