Try using the okra gel without a LI, and without the CK, just make sure you do a nice RO in the shower and leave it in for a while before rinsing. Then top the okra with gel. I think Kathy uses quite a bit of humectants in her okra gel, so adding CK (loaded with humectants) was too much, and decreased the hold power of the gel.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Transitioning to gray
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip