My styling routine is this: use yes to carrots conditioner as my ro, and usually use Shea moisture restorative conditioner as a leave in.(very little or I just use the ytc) then I scrunch in a lot of lalsg, then herbal essences totally twisted mousse and then finally a little of Aussie instant freeze. Then if I have high dew points I will go ahead an add a little Shea moisture on top. I know you didn't ask for this but I think it will help.