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Old 07-15-2013, 10:53 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by wavydaze View Post
I'm really sorry you're having such a hard time with CG. Some people have more luck and start with out with a routine that works or semi-works so their hair improves instantly... others search for much longer until they find a routine that works for them.


Whenever you're having a ton of frizz it can definitely mean your moisture-protein balance is off. Overconditioned hair and overproteined hair can both look frizzy, but feel very different. OC feels really soft, mushy, limp, OP feels dry, possibly crunchy, or like a plastic doll's hair.

Another thing I noticed, you're using Deva low-poo. Kathymack and others have terrible buildup with polyquats. That could definitely be causing the crazy amount of frizz. Kathy, where are you? I think she particularly dislikes Deva low and no poos. She also said she had to use a harsh surfactant (sulfate) to get rid of it. You may need to clarify and use another low-poo. You'll have a clean slate, so that's good!

Deva Low-poo

Water (Aqua, Eau), Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycerin, Coco-Betaine, PEG-75 Lanolin, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Polyquaternium-7, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Polyquaternium-10, Propylene Glycol, Aminomethyl Propanol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance (Parfum)

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Originally Posted by kathymack View Post
If I have a bad few days, it's usually some type of ingredient build up. The prior haircut, my CJ Daily Fix rolled out of the bag into the car. It was too late before I noticed. Let them use Deva NoPoo on my hair--BIG MISTAKE. It has a polyquat! Made my hair just awful until I used a sulfate shampoo to wash it out. Then, my hair was back to normal.

My first suggestion would be to read your ingredients, clarify and stay away from chemicals, like polyquats.
A Bad Hair Month?
Yes, I did try to clarify and go polyquat free, but that literally lasted one wash - too many of my products have polyquats. I want to get off the deva bandwagon, but I spent a big chunck of cash on a liter of condish and don't want to waste it. I couldn't really tell if my hair was better after that wash. I do love the consistency and scent of the devacare, and my hair seems to like it for cowashing, but in future purchases I plan to only add polyquat free products in future purchases.

I think maybe I added too much protein in this last PT/DT, it feels just like your description - crispy and a lot like tangled dolls hair. I may lay off on the protein for a while. I have known for years that my hair doesn't really like protein in large amounts - I have always preferred "moisturizing" products versus "reconstructive" products except for rare occaisions following a particularly bad color job. I find that wierd given that my hair should be highly porous due to chemical and mechanical damage, so it should love protein, right? I think possibly I need to fork out the $80 for the detailed hair analysis.

One thing I also learned pre-CG is that my hair really doesn't like a ton of product in it. The problem with CG is that they push product in layers, and I can't seem to get that right. I need to back off for a while and just stick with condish only styling.

I am also beginning to adjust to the idea that I need a good cut. My last cut was in April, and it was a doozy - 2.5 inches chopped and just not a good cut. I have been planning to get a deva cut in a few weeks, but not at a strictly deva salon. Probably need to make that appointment soon!

Thanks so much for all of the advice. Several of you have really stuck with me, I feel like a hopeless case though!
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Type 2B - 3A
Med-High Porosity (partial highlights), medium & corse mixed textures

CG Day 1: May 16, 2013

Poo: CJ Daily Fix Cleansing Condish (as needed)
CO: Tresemme Naturals Vibrantly Smooth Condish
RO&LI: CJ Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil Daily Hair Condish
Styling: CJ Pattern Pusha or FSG, TRESemme Flawless Curls - Bouncy Curls Defining Gel, Giovanni LANaturals HardHold Gel (canopy only)
DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Coconut oil, SS Repairing PT

Techniques: Scrunch-n-pump, tshirt wrap
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