I pre pooed and my hair wasn't dry at all which is my usual experience with shampoo. I guess the pre poo did its job. Also I think I found a leave in, curl junky smoothing lotion. I was afraid the slippery elm wouldn't agree with my hair but I had soft juicy little coils that where still soft after the product dried YAY! Again I won't know until after a few more uses if its HG worthy.