Sorry but I don't agree, alkaline agents are alkaline agents, you are confusing cosmetic sensation with dermatological health. If still a high pH superfatted soap bars are still damaging, the extra oils or butters do not restore the protective acid mantle/ skin flora, nor can un-denature proteins, nor are as good as the skin or hair's structural lipids. I can assure you I have personally had dermatitis from superfatted soap designed to be used on the skin. MildER is not the same as mild or harmless.
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Similarly silicones or conditioning agents in commercial shampoo do not stop sulphate surfactants being damaging - just 1% SLS in an emollient base has been shown to thin and dehydrate even healthy skin.
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And since we are on a haircare forum polymer chemist Tonya McKay says
"Another very important ingredient to avoid for long, curly hair especially is soaps. In the past, I have written an article cautioning users of soap to be careful, but basically concluding that it was probably okay to use soaps with an acidic rinse and lots of moisturizing agents. Based on the following information obtained from the research of Dr. Ali Syed (a hair care researcher who specializes in African and curly hair), I cannot in good conscience advocate use of any soap products on curly hair.
Soap molecules are salts of fatty acids found in plants and animal fats. They are somewhat alkaline and cause the hair to swell and the cuticle to raise up away from the surface of the hair shaft. These molecules are then able to penetrate through the cuticle and into the CMC where they neutralize the fatty acids in the lipid layer, rendering them water soluble. The fatty acids are then rinsed away in the shower and are gone forever. Use of soap to cleanse one’s hair, especially long curly hair, seems to be a really effective way of permanently destroying the cuticle layer and making the hair very highly porous. This is an example of why natural may not always be superior. It is no surprise that researchers have invested years and many millions (billions) of dollars to develop more gentle cleansers for our hair.
Porosity and Curly Hair
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG, growing out mechanical and chemical damage = breakage and very high porosity. Past armpit length heading for waist.
Treatments: Komaza protein, Komaza Matani, coconut oil with sugar syrup. Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots curl creme, Rockin RInglets
Experimenting with: Mega-Tek, Curl Harmony reviver, Elvive Full Restore 5.
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