I think the problem is not the co washing... it's everything we put on top. I highly suggest anyone who has tried to co wash and failed, take a day or two when you don't need to have perfect hair and experiment with just the conditioner, nothing else. Then when you get that one product right, add another if you need it just a little at a time. It's hard enough to find one product that has all the characteristics you need, I think trying to use 3 or more at the same time (the usual "prescription" for newbies is co/w, RO, LI, and gel) when each one has numerous possibilities and interact with every other product used, while at the same time completely changing how you treat your hair... is a major reason for the frustration and "failure" so many of us are experiencing.

That said I'm in the market for a serum or maybe a milk that contains frizz and has a little bit of hold and not a lot of heavy ingredients (and does not contain shea butter, lol). I don't think gels are for me, they leave too much build up, and puddings are way too heavy. Today I grabbed Loreal eversleek frizz taming creme serum which I had on hand, and I will try that next wash on wet hair, but I'm open to other suggestions. All my other favorite products (garnier creme gel and anti humidity smoothing milk) have dimethicone.
Originally Posted by waymire01
I think a lot of the failure is people not properly researching the Curly Girl method or all the information on this site, they only avoid silicones and sulphates. The method absolutely permits for low poo and that is often recommended here to newbies with scalp problems, fine or thin hair, weak waves or low porosity. It is a myth that you must co-wash to be CG.

It's also widely discussed on these forums that many more ingredients than just silicones can build up - butters, waxes including cetyl esters, petrolatum/ mineral oil, certain polyquats. An awful lot of us use the same product for rinse out and leave in conditioner, and again we do often suggest that to newbies. However too many have not understood that 'leave in' is short for leave in conditioner and instead use no conditioner but two styling products - another source of failure.

I have done as you say here - a lot of conditioner only styling and it was really helpful in understanding what different ingredients do for my hair. I do think more people need to try really basic products - a plain conditioner based on little more than the major emollients, a plain gel with a simple copolymer for hold, THEN consider adding in products laden with proteins, butters/ oils or potent humectants.

A Curly Girl friendly gel should be water based and rinse out with no build up or residue. A lot of people like lighter jellys such as flaxseed or okra, or make their own curl cream from a gel plus conditioner.

HTH.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect