well you guys know the deal with me, i love gel!!! FOTE all they way
shygirl, i feel you on not holding your breath for a cream styler to give you the same effect as gel. i just know that gel really helps to control my hair to form the curls and keep them in their curly state. i tried using a creme styler alone a while back and it was a great afro day for me, a few corkscrews here and there but no definition.