One thing that I've found very helpful is to use some kind of polisher on top of the crunch.

When I set my hair with the Fantasia IC gel, it is crispy extreme. Lately, I'll use abuut a dime-sized amount of CurlFriends Shine Gloss. It feels like a polisher (i.e. Smooth-n-Shine Polisher, Fantasia Polisher) and it does have some cones in it I believe. The polisher leaves my curls in perfect tact while destroying the crunch.

Downside: My curls won't last as long (i.e. I normally get like 4 days of hair and it will cut me down to about 2-3)
Hope this helps! ^_^
Asja
Hair:
4A (some 3C-ish in front)
Thick, coarse, & UTTERLY unruly
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