Pin-up Style hair... but curly!

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I want to get my hair into something a bit retro and pin-up looking, either 40s or 50s era...
I'd love to try Victory rolls, but don't see how they'd be possible on my 3b hair!

But every single tutorial I seem to be able to find involves pin-curling poker-straight hair to get the desired effect - there's no mention of what was done with natrually curly locks!

So, do any of you have any tips for vintage styles which are curly-girl freindly? Or really step-by-step instructions on how to form the styles, natural curls and all?
I want to get my hair into something a bit retro and pin-up looking, either 40s or 50s era...
I'd love to try Victory rolls, but don't see how they'd be possible on my 3b hair!

But every single tutorial I seem to be able to find involves pin-curling poker-straight hair to get the desired effect - there's no mention of what was done with natrually curly locks!

So, do any of you have any tips for vintage styles which are curly-girl freindly? Or really step-by-step instructions on how to form the styles, natural curls and all?
Originally Posted by Gothylocks
If you ask a lady of a "certain age" who wore those hairstyles when she was young, she will tell you that
most girls with straight hair back then got a perm, and the lucky ones had natural curls. Either way, they did roller or pincurl sets to keep the hair in style.

Maybe this will help you
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showt...aturally+curly

The haircut was also important. This thread is about the Middy cut, a layered cut that makes those vintage styles so much easier.

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=45620
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As crwritt said, most women pincurled their hair whether straight, permed or naturally curly - pincurling gave the curlies more control over what their curls did. I wish I had a good picture of my mother's to show you c. 1955, her senior year picture.

Check out some of these ladies' hair:

Susan Hayward www.imdb.com/name/nm0001333/mediaindex

Katherine Hepburn www.imdb.com/media/rm2641598464/nm0000031

Ava Gardner
www.imdb.com/name/nm0001257/mediaindex

Bette Davis
www.imdb.com/media/rm3076823040/nm0000012

Lana Turner
www.imdb.com/media/rm4251162624/nm0001805

Marilyn Monroe
www.imdb.com/media/rm2694813696/nm0000054

Rita Hayworth
www.imdb.com/media/rm4154431488/nm0000028

Rosalind Russell
www.imdb.com/media/rm443848704/nm0751426

Jane Russell
www.imdb.com/media/rm2604832768/nm0000066

Jayne Mansfield
www.imdb.com/media/rm1549309952/nm0543790

Donna Reed
www.imdb.com/media/rm425302016/nm0001656

Maureen O'Sullivan
www.imdb.com/media/rm1872533504/nm0001577

Heddy Lamarr
www.imdb.com/name/nm0001443/mediaindex

Zsa Zsa Gabor
www.imdb.com/media/rm4198995968/nm0001248

I don't know how long your hair is, but even if it's shorter, there are a lot of shorter styles here, too.
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Last edited by auntnett; 09-15-2010 at 12:36 PM.
Elizabeth Short has the Middy Cut. Its a U shape cut with
long bangs, and layering all around the ends of the hair. It was usually styled so that most of the curls were around the edges, and the back and crown of the head were brushed smooth, that's where you'd wear your hat!This is the cut that works great for victory rolls or side rolls. It can be as short as ear length or as long as shoulder/ brastrap length.
I like this picture of her, she looks naturally curly to me.
Of course she's pretty disheveled, it is a mug shot after all.

Last edited by crwritt; 09-15-2010 at 03:54 PM.
Hello! I'm also a 3b. I want to do a pin-up style hair also. I've looked at all the links to the photos and looked up "Middy Cut." I'm not sure if I could commit to that hair cut. It reminds me of Kitty on That 70's Show. I also don't think my 3b hair would work with that hair cut. Any other suggestions?
In the burlesque world we replicate these styles a lot, and I'm a staunch curly, so I refuse to change my appearance to fit a certain standard. I just do the exact same things with my hair curly! It's not going to look exactly the same, it'll look like a curly version of the same style though, and so long as you do it neatly and follow technique, it'll come out lovely! In fact, I like my pompadours a LOT more curly, because the part that has to be combed over the teased part or hair rat showcases my waves in a really pretty way. Plus, we get the bonus of being able to pull out various ringlets to frame the style/our faces effortlessly, and the big vintage bun with the flower adornment looks so pretty on curly girls because of the curliness of the bun, gives it an extra "romantic" look
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In the burlesque world we replicate these styles a lot, and I'm a staunch curly, so I refuse to change my appearance to fit a certain standard. I just do the exact same things with my hair curly! It's not going to look exactly the same, it'll look like a curly version of the same style though, and so long as you do it neatly and follow technique, it'll come out lovely! In fact, I like my pompadours a LOT more curly, because the part that has to be combed over the teased part or hair rat showcases my waves in a really pretty way. Plus, we get the bonus of being able to pull out various ringlets to frame the style/our faces effortlessly, and the big vintage bun with the flower adornment looks so pretty on curly girls because of the curliness of the bun, gives it an extra "romantic" look
Originally Posted by BellaCaramella
Do you mind showing a picture of one of your hairstyles that looks pin up?
Sure, here's a few...

(**Sorry to take the pics out guys, but the thread got a bunch of views, so I figure most of you already saw them, if not, just pm me :-D )

Last edited by BellaCaramella; 09-12-2012 at 10:56 PM.
There is a woman on youtube named PinUpNoire. She is an actual black pin up model! She does straighten her hair for modeling; however, she has made a few tutorials to do pin up styles for natural hair. They include victory rolls, faux bangs and types of buns. She doesn't have curly-wear-hair-down method yet. But still her styles work very well. Here is her site:
The Pin Up Noire Channel - YouTube

One thing that helped me to achieve some styles is having my hair already stretched out. Like sleep on 4 twists and a front twist to the scalp for bangs. But her site is quite excellent as far as hairstyles.
oh yes, I have thick 3b hair and I have been obsessed with this for a while also! I love watching vintage style youtube tutorials, and looking at old magazines. Apparently everybody pin-curled their hair, even the curly-haired did in order to get the "correct" shape. My Grandmother had curly hair (maybe 2c), she got her hair "set" professionally about once a week or more, but a lot of people did it themselves. It involves pinning damp hair into the pattern your desired style requires( which might involve a combo of stand-up pin curls, flat pin curls, clockwise and anti-clockwise etc.) letting it get COMPLETELY dry ( hood dryer or sleeping on it overnight), and then BRUSHING IT OUT which my hair philosophy is very against. I convinced myself once that this would work, if I just didn't lose faith and kept brushing and brushing like in the video on youtube. It did not work. It was still WAY too frizzy. Maybe if your hair is less thick or frizzy it might be worth a try but it's super time consuming.
I would not get a middy haircut unless you like the way it looks au naturel as well as styled.
I think Alex Kingston had a realistic naturally curly style in series 2 of the new Upstairs Downstairs ( set in the late 30s). Her character is an archeologist named Dr. Blanche Mottershead. It looks like they just took her naturally curly collar-length hair and arranged it in the general shape of the era- poofy on the front top of the head, sides pinned back a bit. Probably what most practical people did at the time, but not as sexy as big victory rolls.

If I pull back my hair when it's wet and make a simple braid it dries stretched out and forms waves, so I've had some success in forming this hairstyle which is based on a hairstyle recommended for women in factories during the war Veronica Lake's 1940s Wartime Updo Hair Tutorial - YouTube ( but I don't do that looping thing with the bangs like she does)
This hairdo is very classic and doesn't require pin curls. I think some people call it the "Heidi" or "Crown" braid.

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