Tightly Curly Method

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Okay, so today was offically the first day that I've tried the TCM and so far....IT WORKS!!! If I would have known about this sooner...God I would have saved so much money!!!
You can read about it here: Welcome

Basically you use conditioner as your leave-in. That simple. But only certain ones and you can be CG at the same time. I washed with Organix Coconut Oil, then rinsed with VO5 Strawberry and Cream Moisturizing and then added the Organix CO Conditioner as my leave-in. I didn't put too much in because I was a scaredy cat but so far, so good. It did take a long time to dry which actually is a good thing because that means for me that my hair is retaining it's moisture. Apparently, you can get 7 day hair from this but since my hair is short; 4 inches I normally can't get 2 day hair but all you have to do is wet your hands to reactivate your curls so I'm going to try that tomorrow and I'll let you know what happens.

Word of Advice: For people with 4a hair or kinkier hair, I wouldn't try this technique. For some reason, this works well for the 3c or 3bers and the biracial curlies but the 4aers tend to repel the conditioner. I've heard of people doing this before but thought they were nuts; all of which were biracial and finally after BeckaPoo turned me on to this site I thought I'd give it a try. Honestly, it seems to be the most cost-effective, healthy/most sensible treatment for my hair. I even noticed my cuticle is closed. But for some reason when I watched videos of kinkier hair trying it, the conditioner just came gushing out and it fluffed right up. I guess the hair was too course and didn't soak it in right.

I will post pictures when I'm throughout the week to see if it's actually working. I sure hope to the lawd in heaven it does. I'm at the end of my rope!

Has anyone else tried this and had it worked?
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Okay, so today was offically the first day that I've tried the TCM and so far....IT WORKS!!! If I would have known about this sooner...God I would have saved so much money!!!
You can read about it here: Welcome

Basically you use conditioner as your leave-in. That simple. But only certain ones and you can be CG at the same time. I washed with Organix Coconut Oil, then rinsed with VO5 Strawberry and Cream Moisturizing and then added the Organix CO Conditioner as my leave-in. I didn't put too much in because I was a scaredy cat but so far, so good. It did take a long time to dry which actually is a good thing because that means for me that my hair is retaining it's moisture. Apparently, you can get 7 day hair from this but since my hair is short; 4 inches I normally can't get 2 day hair but all you have to do is wet your hands to reactivate your curls so I'm going to try that tomorrow and I'll let you know what happens.

Word of Advice: For people with 4a hair or kinkier hair, I wouldn't try this technique. For some reason, this works well for the 3c or 3bers and the biracial curlies but the 4aers tend to repel the conditioner. I've heard of people doing this before but thought they were nuts; all of which were biracial and finally after BeckaPoo turned me on to this site I thought I'd give it a try. Honestly, it seems to be the most cost-effective, healthy/most sensible treatment for my hair. I even noticed my cuticle is closed. But for some reason when I watched videos of kinkier hair trying it, the conditioner just came gushing out and it fluffed right up. I guess the hair was too course and didn't soak it in right.

I will post pictures when I'm throughout the week to see if it's actually working. I sure hope to the lawd in heaven it does. I'm at the end of my rope!

Has anyone else tried this and had it worked?
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
I know of some 4a ladies who swear by this technique.



Furthermore, we cannot forget the fact that there are biracial people with 4a and 4b hair
Okay, so today was offically the first day that I've tried the TCM and so far....IT WORKS!!! If I would have known about this sooner...God I would have saved so much money!!!
You can read about it here: Welcome

Basically you use conditioner as your leave-in. That simple. But only certain ones and you can be CG at the same time. I washed with Organix Coconut Oil, then rinsed with VO5 Strawberry and Cream Moisturizing and then added the Organix CO Conditioner as my leave-in. I didn't put too much in because I was a scaredy cat but so far, so good. It did take a long time to dry which actually is a good thing because that means for me that my hair is retaining it's moisture. Apparently, you can get 7 day hair from this but since my hair is short; 4 inches I normally can't get 2 day hair but all you have to do is wet your hands to reactivate your curls so I'm going to try that tomorrow and I'll let you know what happens.

Word of Advice: For people with 4a hair or kinkier hair, I wouldn't try this technique. For some reason, this works well for the 3c or 3bers and the biracial curlies but the 4aers tend to repel the conditioner. I've heard of people doing this before but thought they were nuts; all of which were biracial and finally after BeckaPoo turned me on to this site I thought I'd give it a try. Honestly, it seems to be the most cost-effective, healthy/most sensible treatment for my hair. I even noticed my cuticle is closed. But for some reason when I watched videos of kinkier hair trying it, the conditioner just came gushing out and it fluffed right up. I guess the hair was too course and didn't soak it in right.

I will post pictures when I'm throughout the week to see if it's actually working. I sure hope to the lawd in heaven it does. I'm at the end of my rope!

Has anyone else tried this and had it worked?
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
I know of some 4a ladies who swear by this technique.



Furthermore, we cannot forget the fact that there are biracial people with 4a and 4b hair
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
True, I'm sorry I was just responding to all of the video's I watched and I talked to my sister-in-law tonight too and she said she and her daughter couldn't use it but hey! if it works it works! Go for it. I guess I should have even stated it doesn't even depend on your hair type/class but more your hair texture and not everyone has the same hair texture. Heck, a 2 could even use this method and have great results. But I've noticed the majority of people who get good results are 3B/3C but I guess anyone can. I'm just happy there's a technique that I found that doesn't cost a whole paycheck for a month's worth of product. And it can work for everyone. Do you use it?
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Okay, so today was offically the first day that I've tried the TCM and so far....IT WORKS!!! If I would have known about this sooner...God I would have saved so much money!!!
You can read about it here: Welcome

Basically you use conditioner as your leave-in. That simple. But only certain ones and you can be CG at the same time. I washed with Organix Coconut Oil, then rinsed with VO5 Strawberry and Cream Moisturizing and then added the Organix CO Conditioner as my leave-in. I didn't put too much in because I was a scaredy cat but so far, so good. It did take a long time to dry which actually is a good thing because that means for me that my hair is retaining it's moisture. Apparently, you can get 7 day hair from this but since my hair is short; 4 inches I normally can't get 2 day hair but all you have to do is wet your hands to reactivate your curls so I'm going to try that tomorrow and I'll let you know what happens.

Word of Advice: For people with 4a hair or kinkier hair, I wouldn't try this technique. For some reason, this works well for the 3c or 3bers and the biracial curlies but the 4aers tend to repel the conditioner. I've heard of people doing this before but thought they were nuts; all of which were biracial and finally after BeckaPoo turned me on to this site I thought I'd give it a try. Honestly, it seems to be the most cost-effective, healthy/most sensible treatment for my hair. I even noticed my cuticle is closed. But for some reason when I watched videos of kinkier hair trying it, the conditioner just came gushing out and it fluffed right up. I guess the hair was too course and didn't soak it in right.

I will post pictures when I'm throughout the week to see if it's actually working. I sure hope to the lawd in heaven it does. I'm at the end of my rope!

Has anyone else tried this and had it worked?
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
I know of some 4a ladies who swear by this technique.



Furthermore, we cannot forget the fact that there are biracial people with 4a and 4b hair
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa
True, I'm sorry I was just responding to all of the video's I watched and I talked to my sister-in-law tonight too and she said she and her daughter couldn't use it but hey! if it works it works! Go for it. I guess I should have even stated it doesn't even depend on your hair type/class but more your hair texture and not everyone has the same hair texture. Heck, a 2 could even use this method and have great results. But I've noticed the majority of people who get good results are 3B/3C but I guess anyone can. I'm just happy there's a technique that I found that doesn't cost a whole paycheck for a month's worth of product. And it can work for everyone. Do you use it?
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords

I haven't tried the Tightly Curly method because I prefer to use a Styling cream and/or gel for my hair. With the exception of Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose, I have never used a rinse out conditioner as a leave-in.

In Europe there are strict guidelines when it comes to cosmetics. Any product for sale in the European Union has to have a Chemical Safety Assessment and if it contains water it should have been challenged tested to ensure that the preservative is effective.

When the manufacturer of a product submits his/her formula for it's chemical safety assessment he/she has to declare whether the product will be used as a leave in or a rinse off. This is very important as certain ingredients (in certain quantities) are only suitable for use as a rinse off.

Therefore, if the directions instruct me to rinse out the conditioner - I'm going to rinse out the conditioner.

I'm not trying to put you off the Tightly Curly method. Teri has been using the method for a long time and her hair looks great. However, I'm someone who prefers to err on the side of caution. I'm more concerned about the effect that certain ingredients may have on my health than about my hair looking great.

I noticed in Lorraine Masseys new book she advises people to use 'botanical' conditioners as leave-ins. In her first book she did not seem to make this distinction. Since writing her first book, Lorraine has started her own product line so I assume that she now has a greater awareness about the use of various ingredients.That may be the reason that she now* directs people to use 'botanical' conditioners as leave-ins.

Once again, I'm not trying to deter you from using your favourite rinse out conditioner as a leave in, I'm just explaining why I don't use the Tightly Curly method.


ETA - *I could be wrong. Maybe Lorraine did tell people to use botanical conditioners in her first book. However, I did not notice it when I read it. If I am wrong I would be grateful if someone could let me know and I will edit my post.

Last edited by AlikaIssa; 05-10-2011 at 04:22 AM.
Hey Drawingwithwords.. I'm glad it worked out for you. Like I said, I've been doing what is now called the Tightly Curly Method for about 20 years now. It's pretty simple, and it doesn't have to cost a lot. I personally choose not to spend more than $10 for any hair product. And by "product" I mean conditioner.

The bottom line is what you already said.. Whatever works! If this works for you then keep doing it.

Also, there are people of all curl sizes that use this method. Although I see a lot of curlies of all curl sizes seeming to use gel moreso than conditioner as a styler. For me, gel and my hair are like this
They ain't friends.
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My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)
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I should clarify, that I don't have a problem with the Tightly Curly method or the techniques used. - I simply avoid using rinse out conditioners as leave-ins.

Like I said before, I do know quite a few people who use this routine and they love it.
Truth be told, Teri LaFlesh is the reason why I decided to go natural. Well, not the whole reason, but after reading her book I decided to go for it.
I had already been on the fence about whether or not to go natural. I hated getting my hair relaxed and using flat irons and blowdryers - my hair would actually sizzle and the bathroom would smell like burnt hair...hello! This can't be good for my hair! I needed a healthier change, I needed to care for my abused hair, but I didn't have the slightest clue how to do it.

A little over a year ago, I was in Borders when I noticed Teri's book, and I picked it up on impulse - I had no idea my natural hair would be curly (I had been getting relaxers at a very young age). I simply thought her hair was gorgeous and I wanted to know more about her. Well, after devouring the whole book in one go, I decided to try her techniques. OMG! My hair loved this new method.

Sooo, a year and a half later, I'm still natural and loving it, my hair is loving me, and I love Teri LaFlesh for helping me out.
Anyway, that's my long way of saying I agree with you Drawingwithwords.
Bekka, do you get second, third day hair from this and how do you get it? I noticed my hair is quite frizzy today..it's always frizzy when I wake up no matter what I do with it. It's short and it's recovering from a very bad haircut so I'm attributing it to that. The woman used thinning shears so I'm sure that has something to do with it but do you reactivate it with water and conditioner or just water? Anyone else have an suggestions?
Bekka, do you get second, third day hair from this and how do you get it? I noticed my hair is quite frizzy today..it's always frizzy when I wake up no matter what I do with it. It's short and it's recovering from a very bad haircut so I'm attributing it to that. The woman used thinning shears so I'm sure that has something to do with it but do you reactivate it with water and conditioner or just water? Anyone else have an suggestions?
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
Well I don't usually do the twirling each curl thing unless I'm specifically doing fingercoils as a style for my hair. For a regular wng, they last a day. If I do fingercoils I can get two days max out of the style.

I think if my hair were longer then I could get more days out of either style, but right now I'm at about 3 inches curly and 4-5 inches stretched.
"The challenge is to be yourself in a world that is trying to make you like everybody else."
"...rationality is not necessary to sell things.."
My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)
I love the tightly curly method. I don't get 2nd day hair either because my hair is short too. Well sometimes I can go with just re wetting it, but it doesn't look as good.
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I use my own variation of this method. I first apply my leave in conditioner, and then I seal with an oil. Then I smooth my hair out (I also don't twist it around) with my fingers. I use a flexible hold gel so I don't scrunch out the crunch. I use a satin bonnet when I go to sleep and when I wake up my hair still looks pretty good. What I usually do is just smooth out any frizzy areas with gel, and style and go. I can usually get a maximum of 3 days doing this method, and I have APL hair.
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

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Did anyone notice any hair lightening with doing this? I know certain products can change your hair color but I don't know what is doing this but when I just used the conditioners yesterday my hair was like a shade or two lighter! Maybe it's my natural hair color and I havent' seen it so long but I was like "Wow! Is that my natural chocolate color? Dang!" I just want to make sure the products are bleaching my hair.
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Did anyone notice any hair lightening with doing this? I know certain products can change your hair color but I don't know what is doing this but when I just used the conditioners yesterday my hair was like a shade or two lighter! Maybe it's my natural hair color and I havent' seen it so long but I was like "Wow! Is that my natural chocolate color? Dang!" I just want to make sure the products are bleaching my hair.
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
I've heard of the lightening effect of honey but I haven't heard of a conditioner lightening someone's hair. However, it's not an impossibility.

What do the directions on your conditioner say? They may give an indication as to whether there is anything in the conditioner that may have a lightening effect if it is left on the hair.

On the directions of some conditioners it says that you should rinse the conditioner out thoroughly and only use as directed. In those cases there is a chance that the product may have some kind of adverse effect if it is left on the hair.

It's hard to tell though. Maybe it's just your natural hair colour.

There are a number of sites online that provide information about the ingredients in cosmetics - if I was you I would google each of the ingredients in the conditioner to find out more.
Did anyone notice any hair lightening with doing this? I know certain products can change your hair color but I don't know what is doing this but when I just used the conditioners yesterday my hair was like a shade or two lighter! Maybe it's my natural hair color and I havent' seen it so long but I was like "Wow! Is that my natural chocolate color? Dang!" I just want to make sure the products are bleaching my hair.
Originally Posted by Drawingwithwords
I've heard of the lightening effect of honey but I haven't heard of a conditioner lightening someone's hair. However, it's not an impossibility.

What do the directions on your conditioner say? They may give an indication as to whether there is anything in the conditioner that may have a lightening effect if it is left on the hair.

On the directions of some conditioners it says that you should rinse the conditioner out thoroughly and only use as directed. In those cases there is a chance that the product may have some kind of adverse effect if it is left on the hair.

It's hard to tell though. Maybe it's just your natural hair colour.

There are a number of sites online that provide information about the ingredients in cosmetics - if I was you I would google each of the ingredients in the conditioner to find out more.
Originally Posted by AlikaIssa

I will check out the ingredients and list them on here. I'm still new to all of the ingredients but they did seem mostly natural although a lost of natural stuff does have an effect.

Since I noticed it only like an hour or two after doing it, I'm going to say it's my natural hair color. My hair naked has a lot of red tones in it (And I'm still trying to figure out if the milk man was my father) so I'm guessing that since I had little to no product in it, it was just my natural color showing through. When I use a lot of gels or creams, it tends to darken it almost to black and I'm not used to seeing it so light.

Oh, and it just says to "rinse out." It doesn't have any warnings or anything like that."

I will be back with those ingredients though. :P

Last edited by Drawingwithwords; 05-11-2011 at 10:08 AM. Reason: forgot something
It could just be your natural color. I thought my hair was sun bleached until I realized certain areas naturally grow out a shade or three lighter than the rest of my hair in streaks. I've dyed my hair blue/black so often over the years, I lost track of my natural hair color. Growing out years of permanent dye now. I use henna, but even that washes out after a certain period of time.

BTY, I'm 4a and used the TCM in the past and my hair loved it. It really depends on the conditioner though.
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Hi Bekka! How does this method hold up in high dews and humidity? Do you have to use anything else?
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Hi Bekka! How does this method hold up in high dews and humidity? Do you have to use anything else?
Originally Posted by teejay
Hey teejay.. Nope I just use condish and oil, sometimes a little shea butter too. I used this same method (minus oil) when I lived in NY. I still use this method now that I'm down here in sunny FL. My basic regimen hasn't really changed in 20 years.
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"...rationality is not necessary to sell things.."
My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)

Last edited by BekkaPoo; 05-11-2011 at 04:49 PM.
Hi Bekka! How does this method hold up in high dews and humidity? Do you have to use anything else?
Originally Posted by teejay
Hey teejay.. Nope I just use condish and oil, sometimes a little shea butter too. I used this same method (minus oil) when I lived in NY. I still use this method now that I'm down here in sunny FL. My basic regimen hasn't really changed in 20 years.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
Thanks! Good to know. I am trying to eliminate gels containing glycerine from my hair's diet. My hair loves it but my skin hates it. It wasn't a problem when my hair was shorter.
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Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils
Hi Bekka! How does this method hold up in high dews and humidity? Do you have to use anything else?
Originally Posted by teejay
Hey teejay.. Nope I just use condish and oil, sometimes a little shea butter too. I used this same method (minus oil) when I lived in NY. I still use this method now that I'm down here in sunny FL. My basic regimen hasn't really changed in 20 years.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
Thanks! Good to know. I am trying to eliminate gels containing glycerine from my hair's diet. My hair loves it but my skin hates it. It wasn't a problem when my hair was shorter.
Originally Posted by teejay
Just a word of warning.. if your hair is porous it may not like glycerine. At least that has been my experience. Aloe doesn't work for me either. The closest thing to gel I can use is Elastici-tea (and even that gives me a bit of crunch) and flax seed gel.

If you're not porous, lay on the glycerine. Let me know how it goes if you use the tightly curly method.
"The challenge is to be yourself in a world that is trying to make you like everybody else."
"...rationality is not necessary to sell things.."
My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)

Hey teejay.. Nope I just use condish and oil, sometimes a little shea butter too. I used this same method (minus oil) when I lived in NY. I still use this method now that I'm down here in sunny FL. My basic regimen hasn't really changed in 20 years.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
Thanks! Good to know. I am trying to eliminate gels containing glycerine from my hair's diet. My hair loves it but my skin hates it. It wasn't a problem when my hair was shorter.
Originally Posted by teejay
Just a word of warning.. if your hair is porous it may not like glycerine. At least that has been my experience. Aloe doesn't work for me either. The closest thing to gel I can use is Elastici-tea (and even that gives me a bit of crunch) and flax seed gel.

If you're not porous, lay on the glycerine. Let me know how it goes if you use the tightly curly method.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
I definitely will let you know. Right now I am trying the Curly Girl method. It's not bad but my hair has a little crunch. I know I have to stick with it for a while to see a change. If I am not happy with it I will try TCM.
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Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils

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