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Old 09-04-2011, 01:42 PM   #1
 
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Default fizz + (lack of) curl definition

ive just started looking after my hair, and after a little over a month of getting really into my hair ive noticed a few things which are now really starting to bother me. i do have really nice soft hair but totally lack any definition! when i came out of the shower my curls are really nice but after awhile it gets all fizzy, and i end up having to put it in a pony tail or bun so i dont look that horrible.
i oil my hair twice a day and wash with condish every other day i deep condition once a week and use morrocan oil intense curl cream.
does any one know of any (cheap!) all natural products that i could try that will work?
thanx ladies!
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:50 PM   #2
 
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Just taking a shot in the dark here - sounds to me as if you are overconditioned. Perhaps try this for an experiment: use only one rich conditioner which you rinse out and a reliable gel and see what happens. Don't dry your hair to much - scrunch the gel into very wet hair and diffuse most of the way. Don't put in oil as part of this experiment. Don't use anything else - no curl creme, no leave in no sealer.

First use a good shampoo - I would even say use a mild sulfate shampoo Like L'oreal Vive for colored hair (even though your hair may not be colored, because it is a sulfate shampoo but a gentle one) because you sound as though you have buildup. If you don't have that or won't use that, use a lo poo and give yourself a good cleansing. Then a nice, rich conditioner, and rinse out. Use cold water! As cold as you can stand it. Then gel and good scrunching. To distribute the gel you may want to pour some more cold water on it. Try something like Kinky Curly Curling Custard or Ecostyler or LaLooks. See how much definition you get which will probably be a lot! Then as the days go by, add a few of your other products in one by one, and stop when you see that your curls are starting to lose definition. HTH!
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:08 AM   #3
 
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all you need to do is slap some gel in your wet hair. The gel will hold and define your curls, rake the gel through your hair making sure you coat your hair really good.
i recommend eco styler gel however, if you really want something all natural then i recommend "flaxeed gel" you have to make it at home. you can search for recipes online, its very simple to make.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:47 AM   #4
 
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woow thanx both! ill give my hair a good wash tonight and do a rinse with cold rosemary water and put same gel in it the thing that was tricking me is that my hair is really really soft and feels great, was just the definition
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You may find that your hair isn't as soft without all the oils and cremes you have been putting in. So if you feel that your hair needs softening, after your experiment, begin adding some oil afterward and see if you like that. Or use a leave-in next time before the gel and see if that texture is what you prefer.

Many curlies use a curl creme instead of gel for a soft texture and you can try that also. It's just a question of experimenting until you get the right balance between definition and softness. Start with gel so that you can see the difference. Good luck - I'll be interested to know your results.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:44 AM   #6
 
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thanx so much last night i did wash my hair well with a sulfate shampoo, (felt horrible for it poor hair!) and put a little bit of fizz n curl definition in it and sealed the oils, let it air dry and was really happy with it then today i did a scalp scrub and used the fizz and curl definition thing and sealed the ends n now my hair looks great today im really new with looking after my hair, so i think it was just a matter of working out what works best for it and my hair is really nice n soft as well
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:22 PM   #7
 
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ok i'm definitely trying this. seems so dag on simple, why not? very informative! i never wash my hair :/ perhaps i have build up and don't even realize it! and i haven't been using gel lately, so hmm…maybe this will work? we shall see
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ok i'm definitely trying this. seems so dag on simple, why not? very informative! i never wash my hair :/ perhaps i have build up and don't even realize it! and i haven't been using gel lately, so hmm…maybe this will work? we shall see
yea i think that was my problem as well, so i think once a week im gonna do a scalp scrub n add a bit of bi carb, so that will remove build up n that
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:12 AM   #9
 
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The Moroccan Oil Intense Curl Cream is causing you a lot of your problems. Here are the ingredients:

Water, Mineral Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquatermium-7, Gel Y Ceryl Stearate, Dimethicone, Argania Spinoza Kernel Oil (Aragon oil), Petrolatum, Cetrimonium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Panthenol, Fragrance (Supplement), Propylparaben, Methylparaben, Citric Acid.

The fact that the second ingredient is mineral oil, it has dimethicone and then petrolatum is problematic. It's like putting Vasoline in your hair and topping it off with a non water soluble cone! The fact that they charge $32 for 10+ ounces of cheap ingredients is astounding!

If you continue to use it, you're going to have to use fairly strong shampoo on a regular basis to remove all of the build up.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:34 AM   #10
 
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mmm thanx for that kathymack! i dont think ill be using it alot then will and that it was pretty pricy
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:28 PM   #11
 
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I noticed that when my hair gets dry and needs moisture, it WILL frizz!

My solution is to carry one of the sample bottles of my favorite natural product line Curly Kinks (refresher in my handbag and I leave an organic gel by Curls in my desk) and by mid-afternoon I give my curls an afternoon spritz of the refresher or simply water.

If the hair has really "fritz" out, I spray the section and apply the Curls gel and allow to dry into style.
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I noticed that when my hair gets dry and needs moisture, it WILL frizz!

My solution is to carry one of the sample bottles of my favorite natural product line Curly Kinks (refresher in my handbag and I leave an organic gel by Curls in my desk) and by mid-afternoon I give my curls an afternoon spritz of the refresher or simply water.

If the hair has really "fritz" out, I spray the section and apply the Curls gel and allow to dry into style.
yea ive been doing that, i give my hair a spray of aleo vera water
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my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

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