3B/3C - Not getting goof results using no-poo, wash with conditioner method

curlymamakc · 07-31-2012, 10:44 PM

Hello Curlies!

I have natural curly hair and in the past I've used Suave, Aussie, HE or Garnier products on my hair and hairspray to control the frizz. This summer I've been trying out the CG method....no-poo, conditioner and leave - ins, no sulfate, parabins all of that. I usually wash my hair with Mixed Chicks or Deva No Poo about every 3 days and use Deva Curl conditioner in between. I will go a few days where I spray water on my hair then use Deva Curl AnGel, Mixed Chicks Leave In or whatever sample I got (this week it's curly solutions Curl Keeper and let it air dry. That method does NOT work very well as my hair gets frizzy and I'm throwing it up in a pony tail mid afternoon. I rinse out some of the conditioner in the shower then scrunch it with a t-shirt then use product. I'm seriously thinking of going back to my old hair routine of Aussie shampoo/conditioner and Garnier Fructis Curl Sculpting Creme Gel but I thought I would ask other curlies what are their thoughts. It seems when I put product in my hair it's doing nothing when its wet so I use more and by the end of the day I still get the same result. Just at a loss here. I'm seriously thinking tomorrow morning to use Tresemme Moisture Rich Luxurious Moisture Conditioner (rinse my hair then rake this through, rinsing it all out then adding enough to coat my strands), scrunch some out and wrap hair up using the plopping method then rake through Garnier Curl Sculpting Creme Gel and call it good. What do you think?

(excuse the scatterness of this post, I typed as I thought

kathymack · 08-01-2012, 05:29 AM

It could be that you just haven't found the right products/techniques. Many of us start out with Deva, think we like it and move on to other things. Didn't find the Mixed Chicks products without cones anything special and allergic to CK (it didn't do anything much for me.) Haven't used the other products you mentioned.

Do you know your hair properties?? That's most useful for choosing ingredients/products that will work for you. Here's a link to help you with yours Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics Once you determine your hair properties look for other folks with hair like yours and see what they use (in signature.) It's the best place to start. Curl pattern is relatively unimportant unless you've got a really tight curl pattern--then it's moisture, moisture and more moisture.

curlymamakc · 08-01-2012, 08:09 AM

Hi KathyMack, thanks for responding! I went to that website before and got lost. I found out my hair texture but the other stuff I didn't read too much into. I have fine hair/low porosity but when it comes time to finding products for that specific hair type it's not that easy bc they still categorize in the 2abc, 3abc, 4abc, etc. It just seems like too much work then it's worth i guess and I'm tired of spending money on new products. I started out on Mixed Chicks and loved it but the Leave-In Conditioner doesn't stop the frizz. And Deva is leaving my hair stringy and frizzy. So now I'm trying to find new products but I would hate to buy some and then they don't work, you know what I mean? I have looked and seen what other 3b/3c curlies have used and do use and what routines they do, just doesn't always work with my hair

I actually skipped doing my hair today and threw it in a high ponytail so I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet tomorrow. I would hate to put the sulfates back in my hair using those products I mentioned

Chenoa · 08-01-2012, 01:42 PM

Finding out if ur hair is a 2,3,or 4 is important to the decision process on what products to use. What works on a 2b isn't gonna work on a 4a & vice versa. Try going to the hair types button at the top of this page. You can look @ pictures to determine ur hair type.

kathymack · 08-01-2012, 02:00 PM

For things other then hair styles, curl type is less important then hair properties. That's why the OP isn't finding that her hair likes what other 3b/c folks like if they don't share similar properties. It's more likely that her fine/low porosity will like what my fine/low porosity hair likes, even though my hair is 3a/b (and started out as winter wavy/summer 3a.) Curl patterns change depending on the weather, the products and techniques, etc.

As I commented above, if you have one of the tighter curl patterns it is a little different. The tighter curl patterns are more fragile and break easily. They need extra TLC, more careful handling and lots of moisture. For the looser patterns (wavies and looser curls), texture and porosity are really what matters.

curlymamakc · 08-01-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kathymack

For things other then hair styles, curl type is less important then hair properties. That's why the OP isn't finding that her hair likes what other 3b/c folks like if they don't share similar properties. It's more likely that her fine/low porosity will like what my fine/low porosity hair likes, even though my hair is 3a/b (and started out as winter wavy/summer 3a.) Curl patterns change depending on the weather, the products and techniques, etc.

As I commented above, if you have one of the tighter curl patterns it is a little different. The tighter curl patterns are more fragile and break easily. They need extra TLC, more careful handling and lots of moisture. For the looser patterns (wavies and looser curls), texture and porosity are really what matters.

That helps out a lot, thanks!

curlymamakc · 08-08-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gracy

Deva products didn't work for me either! You can probably use CG without using those products - it took me a long time to find products that worked for my hair. I have the same issue with frizz. Every few days, I have to smooth some kind of thick curl cream over the leave-in conditioner. I do this by combing it through with my fingers.

I used to use My Honey Child's type 3 curl cream, but they started putting synthetic preservatives in it. I've found a replacement, it's Bubble and Bee's coconut lime body butter. The main thing is, it's thicker than conditioner, but more hydrating than straight coconut oil.

I smooth very little on my hair, kind of like how you would apply facial lotion. I rub it between my hands until it's barely visible, and then smooth it over my hair by finger combing (either before or after the leave-in conditioner conditioner, on wet hair). I don't even have to do this every day.

I hope this helps. I used to need gel too, and this seems to work just as well along with a good leave-in curl cream (I use Salon Naturals curl defining cream). Also, I can't spray water on my hair to style it, but have to wet it thoroughly. Unless I wet it thoroughly, my hair has to go into a ponytail.

If a thick cream doesn't work, then I guess you may need the Garnier gel. I've also used honey love pomade in place of gel - someone may have a suggestion for a good gel without the bad stuff.

Good luck.

Very good tips! I plan on getting suave naturals or tresemme naturals for a co-wash, then using a leave-in and a gel or cream on top of the leave-in. I will have to look into the Bumble and Bee's. I've heard of those and have wanted to try them!

frizzycurlz88 · 08-08-2012, 07:58 PM

When I first started following the cg method I was soooo frustrated with my hair looking super frizzy but quickly learned some things. My hair loves and I mean loves Tresemme Naturals.It has great slip and since I use so much of it, its efficient for me. I also need to use a sulfate free shampoo at least once a week and I usually add conditioner to my hair then throw the shampoo on top of the conditioner to ensure my hair stays as soft as possible. I then condition again to detangle and smooth out my hair. I use a leave in conditioner and then a quarter size of LA LOOKS GEL. If I use more than that i get hard crunchy curls which I hate. Any how good luck on your journey!

SpiralSpunk · 08-12-2012, 08:10 PM

You should also check your dew points (Curl Frizz Forecast on the main page). My hair was out of control recently until I realized that what worked in the winter/spring was not working in the summer.

Since you have fine strands your hair may also like some protein. I tend to get better curl definition after a protein treatment.

curlymamakc · 08-14-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by frizzycurlz88

When I first started following the cg method I was soooo frustrated with my hair looking super frizzy but quickly learned some things. My hair loves and I mean loves Tresemme Naturals.It has great slip and since I use so much of it, its efficient for me. I also need to use a sulfate free shampoo at least once a week and I usually add conditioner to my hair then throw the shampoo on top of the conditioner to ensure my hair stays as soft as possible. I then condition again to detangle and smooth out my hair. I use a leave in conditioner and then a quarter size of LA LOOKS GEL. If I use more than that i get hard crunchy curls which I hate. Any how good luck on your journey!

I did a lot of watching of videos on youtube and watched how to co-wash, apply conditioner, plopping and i have had excellent results! I'm still using Deva and I'm having better results once I watched those videos (Waterlily716 is the BEST!) Plus, I wrote down some cheaper drugstore products and got down to the nitty gritty on hair texture and all that so my hair is looking a lot better these days. I hear nothing but good things about Tresemme Naturals conditioner and that is on my list to buy soon and I can't wait to try it. I am using Deva One Condition which I love bc of the thickness but it's a little expensive. I did purchase Kinky-curly knot today leave in and I'm not quite sure how I like it yet. I think it's the texture and smell more then anything that I'm not too hot on. I still love Mixed Chicks leave in but i plan on trying many other products on the curly girl road I'm traveling.