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TieaCP 12-08-2012 09:45 PM

How do you maintain your curl definition?
 
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When I wash my hair or wet it, I think I have 3c type curls. But after it dries it basically frows up... when i try braid outs or twist outs the hair just takes the form of the braids or twists and I see barely any of my natural curls. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

the first pic is how my hair dries when it's just combed. the second is when its wet (maybe with conditioner still in)

Kilajo 12-08-2012 09:53 PM

I finger comb my hair with conditioner in the shower. I always use a leave in conditioner and my hair dries curly. I never used to use gel because I like the softness of conditioner only, but for the last 2-3 months I've been experimenting with different gels just to see what the hype is all about. I'm starting to like the harder hold. Anyway, perhaps gel will help? I use PM's The Conditioner (brand, not gvp because the brand is much better) along with ecostyler gel. I just used up my olive oil eco and bought the argan oil one. I like it better. I also have used KCCC and flaxseed gel. I like KCCC ok, but I'm not too keen on the fsg in my hair. (Love it in DD's though!) Anyway, perhaps gel will help.

TieaCP 12-08-2012 10:28 PM

Thanks for the advice... I try gel sometimes and maybe I'm using the wrong brand, but it just makes my hair really sticky... my hair will hold the curls for a day or so but after its just sticky and gross (and i need it to stay for at least a week because i don't have time to wait for it to dry during the week)... it's probably because I bought L.A. Looks which was probably a bad idea.. does ecostyler give the same effect? and how long do your curls typically last with and without the gel?

MojoDojo 12-08-2012 11:19 PM

I'm not fully 3c (I'm a 3b/c), but I (in the shower), comb through my Leave in, add some coconut oil to the ends, scrunch in some gel, then scrunch water into it (large handfuls of water, and gently scrunch, vid link below).

I then plop my hair when I get out of the shower. If my hair dries crunchy, I will scrunch out the crunch (I don't use product to do this, as it usually makes my hair stick to my hands, which frizzes it more then it needs to be).

I do get good definition with the 3c curls that I have with this method, pretty consistently (my hair does have the teenager "I hate you days" but they're pretty rare). The other thing is to not comb it dry (or towel dried) and to not touch it while it's drying, if you can. If you want more volume, you can diffuse dry it to about 70-80% dry at most, but you'll lose some definition this way.

The super-soaker method I sort of follow (I scrunch the water in after my final product is in, it gives me a softer hold):
Super Soaker Method for Promoting Clumps - YouTube

Plopping (use a large tshirt or microfibre towel):
Curly Care: Plopping aka Plunking - YouTube

KurleeEdna 12-09-2012 06:00 PM

I like Teri LaFlesh's Tightly-Curly method (The Rules) and actually twist and stretch each curl. (It took some practice, but I got it down to about 20-30 minutes.)

I co-wash about 2-3 days. I make sure my hair is dripping wet. I section my hair into four parts. I take a big glob of conditioner (and only you'll know how much to use) along with some gel - about 3 parts conditioner to 1 part gel, and mix it in my hands. I rake it through then take small sections of hair and twist with my fingers.

Depending on the weather and season, I usually let it air dry, or I'll blow-dry with a diffuser until it's mostly dry. My hair is about shoulder-length, so at night I'll tie a satin scarf on my head. (It's usually shmooshed the next morning, but I water-spritz and shake my head and the curls bounce back!) The definition lasts until my next co-wash, but by day 3 it's somewhat poofy and frizzy.

My favorite co-wash/rinse-out conditioner is Renpure My Pretty Hair is Parched.

My favorite leave-ins are SheaMoisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, Renpure Argan Oil Conditioner and Tresemme Naturals Moisture Conditioner.

My favorite gels are Kinky-Curly Curling Custard and Biotera Styling Gel (from Sally Beauty).

Hope this helps! :wink:

Kilajo 12-09-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TieaCP (Post 2082967)
Thanks for the advice... I try gel sometimes and maybe I'm using the wrong brand, but it just makes my hair really sticky... my hair will hold the curls for a day or so but after its just sticky and gross (and i need it to stay for at least a week because i don't have time to wait for it to dry during the week)... it's probably because I bought L.A. Looks which was probably a bad idea.. does ecostyler give the same effect? and how long do your curls typically last with and without the gel?

My hair is never sticky with eco. The only issue I've had is finding the right leave in to play nicely with eco. It really is quite finicky and will cause little white balls in your hair if you use the wrong leave in. Anyway, I put in the LI, add the gel, then add either jojoba or EVOO to my ends. My hair dries harder than it does with condish only but softer than if I don't add the oil. I may or may not sotc depending on how I'm feeling. Sometimes I use a diffuser to dry but not often. I pretty much wet and redo daily. I've always been a daily wet and go-er.

MissDarcei 12-10-2012 12:16 PM

I couldn't figure out why my hair would always poof up until I learned that I had to apply my products in sections. I apply my conditioner and gel in 6 sections and get perfect curls

TieaCP 12-10-2012 06:53 PM

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Thanks for all of your advice! I look forward to trying all of your ideas.

Today I tried the super soaker method. I may have done it incorrectly because I was going off memory and didn't re-watch the video. I started by co-washing, conditioning and detangling in the shower.

I let it air dry with nothing covering it because it got really big and I was afraid of the results if only some of it flattened with a scarf or t-shirt on it and also because it did it early in the day so I didn't have to worry about sleeping on it, just waiting for it to dry (It's still not fully dry after about 8 hrs).

I scrunched in some Cantu Deep Conditioner and some gel. My hair's not really hard but the curls are holding better. I've also discovered that my curl pattern changes throughout the process. When soaking wet I think my pattern was about 3b/3c... When I added conditioner and gel the edges and back got a lot more coily and I think it may have been 4a/4b in places but still the most visible part looked like it was 3c or maybe even 3b.

When I run out of the products I have now, I'll try to buy some of the products you all suggested so thanks for your advice about that. The suggestion about conditioning in sections is really good idea. Usually when I put leave in conditioner in I don't section it off so that may help. I wish I would have seen that comment earlier, but I definitely will next time

Here's some pics of my hair changing throughout the day.

1-washed, conditioned and detangled
2-scrunched with Cantu conditioner and gel
3-almost fully dried

I think I achieved some results, maybe with some perfecting and incorporating your other ideas I can get more

Sandi 12-10-2012 09:38 PM

Before you go out and spend (a lot), I'd definitely scan the products that you have at your local drugstore.
And by the way, you haven't mentioned much about how your hair feels...? Is it perhaps dry, However unfortunately, "3c" is one of the most useless information about the curls on our head. I would look more at porosity, thickness of the strand, and density of the hair on how to treat it. :)

As for the actual topic... I, unlike most, don't really use gel. It's a bit of a hassle, and I get pretty good definition without it. I used to scrunch my hair, but now I cup (my spin on the SuperSoaker method), or just let the product sink in over the hour (I have low porosity hair, that barely picks up water, let alone conditioner).

empressri 12-12-2012 02:26 PM

Your hair looks REALLY heat damaged, (it looks just like mine before I grew it out) so it's going to be harder to maintain curl definition.

Things that helped were curl enhancers, like alagio curling balm or the aveda be curly. You can also try turning your ends with a denman brush to curl them, if it will work.

But I won't lie, snip snip! Your hair will curl much more. Because judging by the pics your roots look tighter and your ends look straight.


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