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Old 07-11-2013, 08:49 AM   #1
 
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Default CG beginner - did I do it correctly?

Hi everyone!

I've been off and on with this site for a few years, but I only decided this week to try going CG. My hair is 3a (low porosity, high density, medium to coarse, armpit length), but I have 2 completely different textures on my head: the bottom half is very soft and seems totally healthy, but the top half is all spiderweb frizz that, although it is soft, is very coarse and dry (it crackles if I squeeze it).

After doing extensive research, I bought some new products and tried washing my hair. My hair felt great when it was wet, but as it dried (I let it air dry, occasionally scrunching my hair) it became a tangled mess that is simultaneously greasy and dry. Is that normal for the first time?

Oh! I forgot to mention that the only thing I didn't do was clip my hair...I attempted it, but I have so much hair that it just didn't work.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:16 AM   #2
 
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Also, does it make sense to wash my hair again tonight (I tried CG washing on Monday, and I usually go 3-4 days between washing my hair anyway) or should I let it be?
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:34 AM   #3
 
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Have you tried a chelating wash? The issue with the canopy might be partly hard water build up. Don't scrunch your hair whilst it's drying, you are not supposed to manipulate after product application and plopping/ squeezing the excess water out.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #4
 
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I haven't tried a chelating wash, but I just looked it up, and chelating products don't seem to be very accessible. Any alternatives?
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:31 PM   #5
 
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Which country are you in?
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Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
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Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:38 PM   #6
 
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I'm in the States, Massachusetts to be exact
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:54 PM   #7
 
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Maybe you need one last shampoo. You could also try a protein treatment. There's no instant cure just give it the moisture and hopefully within 2-3 washes you'll notice a huge difference in texture.

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Old 07-11-2013, 09:03 PM   #8
 
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I'm about to do that. I know that it isn't something that happens miraculously overnight, I was just wondering if the transition was one of those things that gets worse before it gets better.

Also, is clipping a necessary part of the process? As I said before, I attempted it last time, but my hair didn't want to cooperate.

Thanks for your help! :-)
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:22 PM   #9
 
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The upper layer of your hair is usually the most damaged because it's exposed to the brunt of the elements. But give it time and tlc and it'll behave
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:21 PM   #10
 
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What products were you using prior? If you were using silicone-heavy products, for instance, and didn't do a clarifying (or chelating) wash prior, you won't have good results with conditioner washes because you'll still have buildup. I had good results straight off with conditioner washing, but haven't used cones or sulfate products in a very long time, so no real buildup. Some do have a transition period, but I think some of that is getting used to the idea of "clean" hair not being stripped hair the way it is with conventional shampoo.

Joico makes a good chelating shampoo. It's what I use if I feel I should do a chelating wash, which I do maybe a few times a year due to my well water.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:05 PM   #11
 
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I haven't used sulfate products in at least 5 years. I don't have very much - if any - buildup, but the top layer of my hair (roots to ends) seems totally dead. I've now tried at least 3 types of CG hair washing products, and the bottom 2/3s of my hair is great, but the top most layer just seems to get worse.
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:46 PM   #12
 
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It really sounds like you've got some buildup of some sort, and I think the best thing to do would be to do a final clarification, by washing your hair one last time with a sulfate poo which is known to be silicone free: J&J Baby Shampoo, Suave Naturals Shampoo, or VO5 Moisture Milks or Herbal Escapes Shampoo. Just once.

The Suave Naturals Conditioners, and the VO5 Moisture Milk or Herbal Escapes Conditioners all have EDTA, which is a chelating ingredient. If you have hard water, this should do the trick. We've got very hard water here, and I have no related problems with my hair using any of these cheap conditioners for cleansing.

I'd also recommend deep treatments even twice a week until you've seen significant improvement. Then keep doing them, but you could back off to once a week.
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