Frizzy in the tropics!

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Hey there everyone. I've got type 3a/b hair and currently stay in Malaysia. It's pretty hot and humid for the whole year around here, and most days my hair looks so frizzy that for two years I had it chemically straightened. I've gone back to the frizzy curls now but hit a snag: The only brand available here that makes products for curly hair is L'Oreal, but that dries out my hair even more. I'm considering ordering products online, but not really sure what I should use to tame this frizz! Please help me out!
I completely understand! I lived in Malaysia for 8 years and hated my frizzy hair! It wasn't until 4 years after I moved back to the US that I found out about the CG method. I've had to lay off of it for a little while because I've been moving around but now I'm back to paying attention to my hair and I'm excited to get back my curls from before.

I'm bumping this though, because I'll be moving back overseas in a month to Cambodia where it will be hot and dry for half the year and hot and humid for the other half. I think I'll have even less access to products than in Malaysia. Anyone with any ideas? I'll be there for 2 years with a quick trip back to the States in the middle of it so I don't want to rely on bringing enough product with me. My hair is almost to my waist so it would require my entire luggage allowance to bring enough product back! Help!
Hey there ranran!

I had the worst hair in SE Asia including KL, one of the things that pushed me to research and find the CG method.

The BodyShop makes some CG products (the Rainforest line). Some people have had good luck with the Cottonseed Curl Cream. Otherwise I'm not aware of any CG-friendly products on the ground.

If you ever make a trip down to Singapore I can point you to a store called "Brown Rice Paradise" in Tanglin mall which has the biggest selection of CG products (though marked up). Also SASA has Giovanni products... I think there is also SASA in Malaysia?

If you can order online, one of your best options iherb.com. They have good prices and will ship to Asia. There are also discount codes (look in my siggy). Curlmart also ships internationally, but their shipping prices are outrageous.

Don't bother with any of the L'Oreal "curl" stuff... it's a waste of money IMO.

The best way to control frizz is to choose products that are suited to your hair properties. Here you can read more about your hair properties: Curly Hair Basics | Live Curly Live Free These are some things I would advise you to do:

1. Ditch the drying sulfate-shampoos. These dry out your hair and make it frizzier. You can look into cowashing or a sulfate-free low-poo. iherb.com has a few low-poos try the Nature's Gate Chamomile or the BROO shampoos. (Don't go for the Body Shop shampoos... too drying IME). Note: if you're going the cowashing route you must not use any products with silicones!

2. Get a good rinse-out conditioner suitable to your properties. If you have fine hair, you should get a rinse-out conditioner with protein. If you have coarse hair, go for a rinse-out conditioner without protein. If you have damaged hair however (from dying, heat styling etc.) some protein should be a good. I do actually like the Body Shop conditioners and iherb.com has many conditioners to choose from.

3. (optional) Get a nice leave-in conditioner. Could be the same as your rinse-out conditioner, but you may want to stay way from glycerin- or aloe- based conditioners (so not the NG ones). This may or may not have protein, depending on your hair's needs.

4. Gel. I would highly recommend making your own flaxseed (linseed) gel. It is light and works like a charm. It's also super cheap!

5. Don't touch while drying and look around the board for techniques.

6. DO NOT GO TO A HAIRSTYLIST THAT USES THINNING SHEARS OR RAZORS ON YOUR HEAD. If curly hair care knowledge is low in the US or in Europe it's extra-extra-low in Asia from my experience. It's very likely that a stylist will cut your hair the way they're supposed to cut straight hair... and may be quick to use thinning shears or razors. Just say no thank you and ask to use the regular scissors. You can always take this with you and ask for these things: What Should I Tell My Stylist? You could also try cutting your own hair... this will be my next project!


Basically I just want to tell you that I went from having utterly awful frizzy to actually being able to manage it after I discovered nc.com... in the tropics. So if I can do it you can do it too! ::hugs:: and go forth in the humidity!
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2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots/normal po. shaft. normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash, CeraVe Foaming
[/B]Cowash: Cure Care + water
RO: Cure Care, V05 KL, G SAS
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF, DE Shine & Refine, AB Strong Hold gel, SM C&S milk
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

iherb discount code: CFN646

Last edited by wavydaze; 08-13-2013 at 04:56 PM.
I completely understand! I lived in Malaysia for 8 years and hated my frizzy hair! It wasn't until 4 years after I moved back to the US that I found out about the CG method. I've had to lay off of it for a little while because I've been moving around but now I'm back to paying attention to my hair and I'm excited to get back my curls from before.

I'm bumping this though, because I'll be moving back overseas in a month to Cambodia where it will be hot and dry for half the year and hot and humid for the other half. I think I'll have even less access to products than in Malaysia. Anyone with any ideas? I'll be there for 2 years with a quick trip back to the States in the middle of it so I don't want to rely on bringing enough product with me. My hair is almost to my waist so it would require my entire luggage allowance to bring enough product back! Help!
Originally Posted by Sreusaw
See if iherb.com ships to Cambodia!

Otherwise I would look into DiY recipes for gels like Flaxseed and okra.

For conditioners/shampoos it's hard to make your own. So either order from iherb.com or stock up as much as possible and/or send yourself a package before leaving and/or have a family member or friend ship you a package.
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2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots/normal po. shaft. normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash, CeraVe Foaming
[/B]Cowash: Cure Care + water
RO: Cure Care, V05 KL, G SAS
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF, DE Shine & Refine, AB Strong Hold gel, SM C&S milk
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

iherb discount code: CFN646
Wavydaze, I did go check out SASA and BodyShop.... the rainforest line conditioner is working pretty well compared to everything else I've tried. I'm going to try my hand at the linseed gel too. Thanks so much for all the advice!
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No problemo! I'm glad you like them!

I wanted to add that Sephora sometimes carries John Masters Organics and Ouidad. JMO is CG (I think). I picked up the JMO Bare Unscented Detangler recently to use as a leave-in but it's too heavy for my fine, low-po hair but should be fine as a rinse-out conditioner. JMO is kinda expensive and I'm not sure it's worth it but it's an option.

Ouidad is another curly brand but their products have silicones. I haven't tried it yet (next on my list) but I've heard very good things about the Ouidad Climate Control Gel. It is also expensive, but might be worth it if it performs as well as some have mentioned (made for very humid/high dew conditions). I've seen a lot of curlies on the board layer gels as well, using a lot of a filler gel (like flax/linseed gel) and topping it off with a hard hold gel (could be the Ouidad CC) so that way you're not using as much of the expensive gel. It does have silicones, but if you use a low-poo with coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine (all the Giovanni poos have this ingredient, as well as the BROO shampoos) it will dissolve the silicones. You'll be mod-CG, but whatever, if it works it works. If you have dry/damaged hair though it's probably best all your other products are silicone-free and only your last/topmost layer has silicones (so only the gel). That ensures your hair will be getting the moisture that it needs under the silicones.

I'm SG based and other CG brands I've seen on the ground include Nature's Gate (I like a few of their conditioners), Sukin and Renew at some specific guardians/watsons. I hated the Sukin/Renew shampoos but liked the Renew conditioner. The Sukin condish I tried was very light. Sephora also has Burt's Bees now that I remember... while I like their body products I think their hair products are just okay (but they are CG). The BB avocado pre-poo isn't bad though.

Oh yes and coconut oil is probably widely available in Malaysia... I used to do quite a few coconut oil soaks and I think they helped my hair. Overnight is supposed to yield best results but I've done them just for 1hr or even 20min before shampooing (as a pre-poo treatment). Some curlies even add coconut oil to their shampoo to make it milder... I've tried this and like it on occasion.
2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots/normal po. shaft. normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash, CeraVe Foaming
[/B]Cowash: Cure Care + water
RO: Cure Care, V05 KL, G SAS
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF, DE Shine & Refine, AB Strong Hold gel, SM C&S milk
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

iherb discount code: CFN646

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