Extremely frusterated

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  • 1 Post By lolo918
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Hi All,

So I am fairly new to posting on the site (I have stalked all of the forums for a long time though), I have 3b/3a hair. Naturally it is 3b, extremely coarse and thick, however after years of damaging it, straightening it, etc. and pregnancy, the top 1/3rd layer of my hair is more of a soft 3a. I am attempting to grow it out and have done everything I can over the last year to repair it. I have used the CG method, CO-washed, I use honey/olive oil treatments every week or two, and stopped straightening it all together.

Honestly it is still out of control. I went back to relaxing it once a few months ago and it didn't do hardly anything. So obviously I went back to trying to embrace my curls and how they work.

I am just at the end of my rope. I don't know what else I can do besides pulling it back. My profile picture is with my hair straightened because I have literally no pictures of it curly. I never feel pretty when it is curly, I always feel like I have to hide away and it's miserable.

I anyone has any advice at all, or just how you do your routine, I would really appreciate it.
I know it seems like it is so often given as advice, but it really does help to work out your hair properties. These are things like your porosity, texture, and density to start. Texture used to be what was the easiest for me, but I keep seeing results from hair analyses that come back different from what people thought. I judge my texture by how easily I can see my strands when they fall to the floor- they are hard to see so I call them fine textured. Density wise, this refers to the number of hairs you have on your head- I consider myself to have low density because putting my hair into sections leaves quite a bit of scalp showing. Lastly, porosity refers to things like how long it takes your hair to dry with no products, how long it takes to get wet, etc. I consider my hair to be low porosity for example because when I spritz my hair to refresh it, water just beads up at first until I smooth it in or let it sit for awhile. It's not too long, or thick but takes quite awhile to dry.

It sounds like you may need to do a protein treatment after so much damage, trim if needed, and possibly even use a clarifying shampoo depending on what type of products you are using/have used. On top of those things, maybe try doing some "set" curls like rod sets, or coiling your hair around your fingers after you've applied your stylers, braiding (individual braids instead of one big braid), or bantu knots so that the curls look uniform all over your head. I have started using flaxseed gel alone, and mixed into a curl cream- I'm in love. I usually don't acheive good curls with the above advice, but my hair loves the flax gel. It works as a film forming humectant though- some people cannot do this during low or very high dew points though. This comes back to hair properties.
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3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity?
CG since November 2013.

Pre-Poo: Coconut Oil overnight, or a greek yogurt mixture
Shampoo: Curls Cleanser and/or clarifier
Conditioner: trying out different Suave Naturals conditioners and GVP's leave-in conditioner at the moment
Styler: iagirl's super smooth flax curl cream. <3
PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month
DT: conditioner or yogurt base with honey and oil if the conditioner has none.
Have you considered having the old, pre-CG, damaged hair cut off? I know that's traumatic, but it might be what you need in order to enjoy your hair. Why hold onto it if you're miserable with it?

My hair improved with CGing, and with each Deva cut I had. However the biggest difference occurred once all the pre-CG hair was gone.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
I do really appreciate the feedback. Last time I went back to get my hair cut (about two weeks ago) I did have her cut off anything that seemed too damaged or dead. I know I have thick, high porosity (from damage I believe) and very coarse 3b/a hair. I will definitely give the bantu knots a go, I braid my hair to sleep frequently.

Is there any particular protein I should try first for it? I am on a bit of a budget, but I know heavier creams are supposed to work well for damaged hair.
Yes! There is definitely a protein treatment I would recommend. It's IAgirl's Gelatin Protein Treatment, which is based on plain gelatin you can buy cheaply at any grocery store. (Knox is the most common brand around here.) The recipe is on the Sciency Hair blog. I haven't been able to figure out links on my tablet, but Google always gets me there easily. I leave it on for 2-3 minutes, and get great results for the wimpiness my excessively fine hair is prone to for a few weeks.
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Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
I second Morgan_Adcock's suggestion of iagirl's PT! It is great, and the base only requires the gelatin, apple cider vinegar, water, and oil. Well drops of the vinegar and oil, 1/3 cup of water, and half to a full packet of gelatin. I just bought a 4 or 5 pack of gelatin for around $2. Here is the link: Science-y Hair Blog: Recipes and Projects

It starts below the list that is at the top of the page. She also helpfully lists additions you can make to the base recipe- it's great.
3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity?
CG since November 2013.

Pre-Poo: Coconut Oil overnight, or a greek yogurt mixture
Shampoo: Curls Cleanser and/or clarifier
Conditioner: trying out different Suave Naturals conditioners and GVP's leave-in conditioner at the moment
Styler: iagirl's super smooth flax curl cream. <3
PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month
DT: conditioner or yogurt base with honey and oil if the conditioner has none.

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