bunning up

am i spoiling my curls esp. on the top if i bun my hair cup every other day and pin up some short loose ends? im transitioning and now its near my shoulders and the fronts are still kinda short.
I am not sure what you mean by "bun my hair cup" evey other day. If you meanf wearing your hair in a bun every other day, I think that some hairs on top would get damaged from wearing it pulled back. Thus, you might get a "canopy" on top or halo frizz. I am in the same boat as you but I differ in that I wear my hair in a bun EVERYDAY because I still can't wear it down, even after some really great suggestions from this site. I know pulling it back is causing some of the front hairs to break thus making them shorter and therefore stick up. Some have suggested protective hairstyles like braids. I hope others can suggest other things.

I hope this is what you meant. If not, just ignore me.
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hi mafalda,
sorry for the typo! suppose to be "bunning my hair UP. thanks for the reply. i faceabout the same thing whenever i wash my hair after wearing a bun.i have alot of breakage and my hair sheds like crazy. my hair is shoulder length and it looks alright when let it down. but going through the whole hair routine at 7 am before work.. just tires me. thats why i bun it for work.
but now i thinkits better to go through the hair routine..else i will end up losing more hair!
thanks for the help anyway!
I've been bunning my shoulder-length hair every day since summer weather has set in. I make sure that I don't pull it back too tightly, and that I don't twist the length of my hair too tightly, and I am very careful putting in hairsticks or hairforks. Thinking about all of that has helped me keep damage to a minimum. I think my hair would be more damaged if I didn't put it up, with the tangles I get in humid weather.
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Curls2grow, Oddisy, what is your hair routine? Do you wash your hair everyday? Washing with shampoo can cause breakage. What kind of accessories do you use to put the hair up? Elastics will also cause breakage for me, but I still have to use them since they are they the only way I can securely put my hair up. I wish I could use hair sticks but they wont stay in my hair.
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hi mafalda..
my hair routine is very simple... i wash my hair at least 4-5 times a week. and im on no poo. only condish.
after i condish i plop with boots for about 20 minutes then i apply some PM SS and diffuse for abt 10-15 minutes till 80% dry.
thats it.
when im bunning my hair up.. i hv no choice than elastic cause my hair cant hold sticks too..
HTH!
I CO wash every day, but once per week I use HCC and conditioner. I had to practice with hair sticks and hairforks holding my bun. You may want to get an inexpensive set to practice with (at WalMart or Claire's) but watch out for seams that can hurt your hair.
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Leave-ins: BWC, KCKT, cno overnight
Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG
DT: Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Deeply Repairative Hair Pak, Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
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Buns are damaging in the long term when done on wet hair. 80% dry is fine.
Buns are damaging in the long term when done on wet hair. 80% dry is fine.
Originally Posted by Cherish
What about *braiding* your hair when it is wet? Is that damaging too if you do not use any clips or ponytail holders?

Is it best to wait until your hair is almost dry before you braid it (one or two braids)?

Thanks
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I think just braiding hair without any elastics or clips when wet is a lot better than bunning it when wet . Braids are more of a protective style anyway. I wish I could do braids but my hair gets even more poofy afterwards. However, I think it is better to style hair when dry or almost dry because when wet it is a lot more fragile and therefore more prone to breakage.
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I braid my hair when its wet. I love it especially now in the summer. I leave alot of condish in. I do use a fabric elastic to make a high pony-tail braid and then use a clear elastic at the ends( they look like brace rubberbands).
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Buns are damaging in the long term when done on wet hair. 80% dry is fine.
Originally Posted by Cherish
What about *braiding* your hair when it is wet? Is that damaging too if you do not use any clips or ponytail holders?

Is it best to wait until your hair is almost dry before you braid it (one or two braids)?

Thanks
Originally Posted by Cehua
It's not as much of an issue with braids/plaits. However, if your hair is fine and/or you tend to braid tight, I would let it dry just a bit.. say 20-25%. I let my hair dry up to about 50% partly for those reasons, but also because right up to a certain threshold (maybe 75% dry), I find that the drier my hair, the nicer the resulting braid-out.
Buns are damaging in the long term when done on wet hair. 80% dry is fine.
Originally Posted by Cherish
What about *braiding* your hair when it is wet? Is that damaging too if you do not use any clips or ponytail holders?

Is it best to wait until your hair is almost dry before you braid it (one or two braids)?

Thanks
Originally Posted by Cehua

If you repeatedly braid very wet hair, or do it in very small braids, it can lead to breakage, especially on fine, processed or damaged hair, as the hair shrinks as it dries inside the braids which are trying to stretch it and so the tension can break the hair. Same for putting very wet hair in a tight bun. Of course, this depends on the elasticity of your hair - if you do it just once in a while, it's fine, and if you have strong hair, it's OK. I vary my updos and braids every day so the same parts of my hair don't get tension, and I make sure that, unless I am going for a very slick bun, I let it dry halfway or even three quarters and use some glycerin to minimize the shrinkage.
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I think if you make loose, thick braids - like 1 or 2, iwth damp, conditioned hair, then there is minimal or no risk of breakage. At least that is my experience. I've never tried more than 2 braids or plaits at a time.

Anyway, Oddisy, you hair is so pretty you should let it free from those buns!!
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thans curltopia. for 2 days i hv bunning up and today morning i washed my hair and did the normal routine ( with honey..)
i realized that my hair is curly.. but i also hv frizz more than i usually get when i dont bun up the previous day. and this is not the first time
anyone has experienced this?
And the end of the day , all you've got is yourself..
Oddisy-

I don't bun my hair that often.... But I just posted on a thread on the main hair board about frizz fighting techniques. There are some great posts on that thread, including by Urban curl - go check it out!!
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