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L'n-z 06-23-2005 12:21 PM

Long hair changes
 
What are changes you've noticed since your TWA grew in length? What products can you not use anymore or have to start using because you have more hair? What techniques just don't work or did you have to start?

My hair is just above the shoulders and very thick and I'm getting tons of tangles. I feel like this was not happening when I had short hair. My routine is: 1. wash with conditioner (detangle with comb or brush) 2. apply leave-in 3. leave alone. What am I doing wrong?

sck 06-23-2005 12:39 PM

Well, I can use Garnier Wet Look Gel and Pantene Curl Scrunching Gel and not have that crunchy feeling. I can also use Blue Magic hair grease too. :shock: Actually, I think my hair isn't as damaged and porous as it was when I went natural (for the final time) in 99.

curlycovrgirl 06-24-2005 12:36 PM

how often do you deep condition?

My hair was tangling alot also. I bought a spray in detangler which works really well. lots of brands have them. i use it for second day hair sometimes.

also, I started using Alterna hemp deep conditioner once a week and I promise you my hair hardly tangles at all anymore. It's expensive, but money is no object to you right? and it's worth it. So run, don't walk, to Beauty Brands and get some!

Amneris 06-24-2005 12:37 PM

My hair is totally different long than short. It is much more tangly and hard to keep moisturized, but it also lies flatter, has bigger curls, flatter roots and more weight, therefore less frizz.

L'n-z 06-24-2005 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by curlycovrgirl
how often do you deep condition?

My hair was tangling alot also. I bought a spray in detangler which works really well. lots of brands have them. i use it for second day hair sometimes.

also, I started using Alterna hemp deep conditioner once a week and I promise you my hair hardly tangles at all anymore. It's expensive, but money is no object to you right? and it's worth it. So run, don't walk, to Beauty Brands and get some!

You know, I sure haven't been deep conditioning any more. Maybe I got to keep doing that. There aren't any BB out here but I'll try to find it.

Quote:

It's expensive, but money is no object to you right?
hahahahahahaha :lol:

L'n-z 06-24-2005 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amneris
My hair is totally different long than short. It is much more tangly and hard to keep moisturized, but it also lies flatter, has bigger curls, flatter roots and more weight, therefore less frizz.

Interesting. I have some of the same changes too, but just as frizzy. :)

mafalda 06-24-2005 02:42 PM

I hope I am not guanoing this post if I ask you all what the difference between humectant and oils is. What is considered a humectant. So far I have tried coconut oil, olive oil, jojoba oil (I know, a wax) with no success. Just a frizzy mess. (hey, that rhymes!) I am trying to figure out which is best for my hair. Maybe I could try different oils, but I don't want to load up on oils, if my hair really needs humectants.

Also, I believe that in the kinky-curly site, she explains that oil helps to keep moisture in the hair and helps in a protective way to coat the hair but only when moisture is already present in the hair. If it isn't, then hair needs humectants, not oil. Is this right? What would consist of a humectant and what products contain them?

Sorry, if this was already discussed, but I would appreciate if someone would bump up any thread. I am having trouble with the search engine. :cry:

alguma pessoa 06-24-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafalda
I hope I am not guanoing this post if I ask you all what the difference between humectant and oils is. What is considered a humectant. So far I have tried coconut oil, olive oil, jojoba oil (I know, a wax) with no success. Just a frizzy mess. (hey, that rhymes!) I am trying to figure out which is best for my hair. Maybe I could try different oils, but I don't want to load up on oils, if my hair really needs humectants.

Also, I believe that in the kinky-curly site, she explains that oil helps to keep moisture in the hair and helps in a protective way to coat the hair but only when moisture is already present in the hair. If it isn't, then hair needs humectants, not oil. Is this right? What would consist of a humectant and what products contain them?

Sorry, if this was already discussed, but I would appreciate if someone would bump up any thread. I am having trouble with the search engine. :cry:

This is my understanding:

Humectants are hydrating agents. They act as moisturizers by attracting water. They add moisture and softness but do not coat or weigh down the hair like most oils and waxes do.

Some hair (like mine) love humectants and can only take a little oils. Other people’s hair love oils. Then there are some hair types that love both humectants and oils. Some hair can take pure humectants like glycerin and others (like mine) need to have the humectants mixed with other products or it does not work.

Some examples or humectants are:
Glycerin
Vitamin E oil (like jojoba this is not really oil)
Honey
Propylene glycol
Sorbitol
Aloe
Panthenol

Humectants can be derived from vegetable oils (e.g., glycerin) or can be man made (e.g., Propylene glycol).

I am sure there are some articles or threads about this.........

mafalda 06-24-2005 07:07 PM

Thanks Cehua,
I am really starting to think that what I need is humectants or a mixture of both oils and humectants. Most of the stuff I use is oil based and its not working. I do remember liking honey a lot, but stopped because I found out I was a bit allergic. (sigh) So the search continues...

subbrock 06-24-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Long hair changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L'n-z
What are changes you've noticed since your TWA grew in length? What products can you not use anymore or have to start using because you have more hair? What techniques just don't work or did you have to start?

My hair is just above the shoulders and very thick and I'm getting tons of tangles. I feel like this was not happening when I had short hair. My routine is: 1. wash with conditioner (detangle with comb or brush) 2. apply leave-in 3. leave alone. What am I doing wrong?

my hair is getting less and less curly. and ive found that i use less and less product now. i just put in some elucence or natures gate conditioner (usually nature's gate because ive been too poor to restock on elucence) and thats it.

maybe you should start using a heavier conditioner as a leave in. leave in conditoners are way too light for me to use solely as a leave in....


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