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Old 07-25-2005, 12:18 AM   #1
 
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I was thinking that we could talk about what is significant for a typical 3A hair. I am a bit confused about it still..
Also, I thought that it would be cool if we had a more in depth explanation of the hair type in this forum for members to look at.

This is what I think I know so far. I might be wrong.

* Straight or straighter when short
* Gets curlier the longer it gets
* Usually fine/medium thickness
* Forms more curl than a S-pattern?
* Straight when wet?
* Lays flatt at the top and is straight on top?
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:22 AM   #2
 
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Well, that's what I thought. But when people were doing their versions of typing, the description you gave would fall into a wavy section (2's). So, I don't even know anymore--don't care anymore--all I know is my hair needs lots of moisture and oil. Similar to a 3c's needs. So I give it what it needs and don't give a blankety blank what type I am. If you say you are one type, someone will come along and say--no you're not, you're a ______. So, I give up.
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:50 AM   #3
 
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my hair doesn't follow all of the 3A "rules." for example:

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* Straight or straighter when short
* Gets curlier the longer it gets
nope - mine was curlier when i had it short.

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* Usually fine/medium thickness
mine is pretty thick.

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* Forms more curl than a S-pattern?
mine has some spirals and some S's - that's why i call it 3A/2-something.

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* Straight when wet?
this one's true of mine when it's totally wet, but once i get out of water it starts curling up immediately.

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* Lays flatt at the top and is straight on top?
mine isn't straight at the top but it is flat at the top if i don't plop and/or diffuse upside down.



i don't go by the rules, i just say my hair LOOKS like a 3A (mostly) so that's what i go by.
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My hair doesn't follow the type 3A either.

It IS straighter when it is shorter for sure, but it is pretty curly when it is wet.

I guess I am not the only one that is confused. Or maybe there just is no such thing as a "typical" type hair.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:27 PM   #5
 
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My hair is curliest when short. As it gets long, the weight pulls out the curl. It looks 3a but it's 3b deep down inside. I think it makes a difference as far as the dry factor goes. My hair seems to be thirstier than the average 3a. It's hard to say for certain since the majority of people here seem to live in summer humidity rather than the dry heat I'm in 9 months of the year. It's like constantly having a blow dryer aimed at your head. It's more comfortable to live in than sticky heat but it does take a toll on the hair. But I ramble....
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:49 PM   #6
 
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I love this thread -- because I have given up on hair typing. I call my hair a 3A with some 2 mixed in, but who really knows. I don't really care much any more either. Just when I think I have iit figured out, I see discussions on the main board that undo all of my assumptions. My hair is very, very thick with medium texture. The curl pattern on any given day depends on so many things from the weather, to how much care I want to give to preventing frizz, to how I diffuse or if I let it air dry, what products I choose that day, and a hundred other things I'm sure I can't think of.

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Old 07-26-2005, 05:02 AM   #7
 
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My hair is straighter when shorter, it has some S's and a few spirals here and there, mostly in the front, it's not too curly at all when wet and it pretty straight and flat at the roots and underneath.

I originally thought I was a 3a when I joined because of some of these things but I have no spring factor at all and the fact that it's straight underneath, that's what made me decide I was more of a 2b with some 3a instead.

eta: And all of the 3a pictures I look at (like Plink, PixieCurl, Muñequita..) are curlier than mine so I can't be a real 3a. ( I'm still trying though)
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Old 07-26-2005, 07:21 AM   #8
 
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....but I have no spring factor at all and the fact that it's straight underneath, that's what made me decide I was more of a 2b with some 3a instead.
these things are totally true of me too - when i do the spring factor test in the CG book, it says i'm barely wavy! and the underneath of my hair is only slightly wavy in comparison to my curlier canopy.

i just checked out your album again kimmy and your hair looks BEAUTIFUL - and definitely 2B/3A or the other way around - i see some gorgeous spirals in there! in the pictures titled "more good hair" and "still more good hair" it reminds me a lot of solastsunday's hair.
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Old 07-26-2005, 07:48 AM   #9
 
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Straight or straighter when short
* Gets curlier the longer it gets
Mine is curlier as it gets longer, so this is true for me, but it is not straight when short, but less curly
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* Usually fine/medium thickness
I think that I have at least 3 different textures of hair, finer underneath & a mix of medium to medium coarse on top.
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* Forms more curl than a S-pattern?
My canopy is also way curlier than my bottom layer. If all my hair where like it is underneath, I would be a complete wavy.
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* Straight when wet
It is straighter when wet, but not straight

I have a good bit of spring factor, especially on the top layers & my bangs. It is also pretty thick too.

I also don't think that there is a "typical" type of hair. It just seems that so many of us do not fall neatly into one catergory or another.
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i think a lot of 3A's fall into one of two categories - fine hair that has trouble getting volume and doesn't need much moisture (iris427 and solastsunday come to mind) and thick hair that needs lots of moisture (like myself and miacurl).
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Yes, mine is thick & needs LOTS of moisture too, can't seem to get enough. I have never experienced over-conditioning & I really don't think that it is possible to over condition my hair.

But in regards to curl pattern, it seems that many of us 3a's also have some 2 mixed in.
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....but I have no spring factor at all and the fact that it's straight underneath, that's what made me decide I was more of a 2b with some 3a instead.
these things are totally true of me too - when i do the spring factor test in the CG book, it says i'm barely wavy! and the underneath of my hair is only slightly wavy in comparison to my curlier canopy.

i just checked out your album again kimmy and your hair looks BEAUTIFUL - and definitely 2B/3A or the other way around - i see some gorgeous spirals in there! in the pictures titled "more good hair" and "still more good hair" it reminds me a lot of solastsunday's hair.
Aww...thanks PixieCurl. I just looked again and you're right, there are definitely some spirals in there in the back and on the sides too. I guess I'm definitely a combination of 2b/3a. Thanks, now I really feel like I belong in both places!!
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:52 AM   #13
 
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* Straight or straighter when short
* Gets curlier the longer it gets
* Usually fine/medium thickness
* Forms more curl than a S-pattern?
* Straight when wet?
* Lays flatt at the top and is straight on top?
*When I cut my hair really short (chin length) it got a bit curlier in most areas. My hair gets LESS curly the longer it gets.

*My hair is very thick, and loves lots of moisture.

*I have both curls and S-shaped waves all over. Sometimes I have more of one, depending on the product I use and how I dry it. My canopy is always curlier than the underneath layer though.

*My hair definitely seems straight when very wet...of course that I all changes when I squeeze the excess water out.

*My hair is NOT straight on top...more an s-pattern going on up there...but it does lay flat if I don't plop.

Funny but I have to join the club of no spring factor! I have NONE too!
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:33 AM   #14
 
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*When I cut my hair really short (chin length) it got a bit curlier in most areas. My hair gets LESS curly the longer it gets.

*My hair is very thick, and loves lots of moisture.

*I have both curls and S-shaped waves all over. Sometimes I have more of one, depending on the product I use and how I dry it. My canopy is always curlier than the underneath layer though.

*My hair definitely seems straight when very wet...of course that I all changes when I squeeze the excess water out.

*My hair is NOT straight on top...more an s-pattern going on up there...but it does lay flat if I don't plop.

Funny but I have to join the club of no spring factor! I have NONE too!
are we the same person?!
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I guess we are!!! Wow, until you mentioned that, I hadn't noticed that our hair was similar ...... ! That is so cool! You have such beautiful hair that I hope you are my hair twin!
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I have to agree with most of you girls. When my hair is sopping wet in the shower it is straight, but curls right back up as soon as excess water is squeezed out.
My individual hair strands are medium to fine, but I have alot of it and it totally sucks up any moisture I put in it. I usually use about 3-4 big globs of whatever conditioner I use, whether it's Elucence, One, or Too Shea.

I don't have much of a spring factor either, but it just depends. Just the other day I pulled a small clump that was very spirally and it actually sprang back about 2 inches, but I could pull one on the opposite side of my head and it barely budges. My is definitely flatter on top but still with an s-pattern, although I'm also seeing some shorter pieces close to my temple that are twisting right from the roots. But those are few and far between.

It's been so long since I last had it to the bottom of my neck or shorter, that I can't really remember if it was curlier then or not (although I was almost always brushing it straight then anyway. _), but I do remember it being very poofy and kind of big if I didn't brush it.
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i think a lot of 3A's fall into one of two categories - fine hair that has trouble getting volume and doesn't need much moisture (iris427 and solastsunday come to mind) and thick hair that needs lots of moisture (like myself and miacurl).
Here mine differ again. My hair is fine, but I have lots and it seems to be pretty dry.

I have "lots" of spring factor, especillay in the neck (which is probably 3B curls though).
I feel like my hair is different from other peoples hair on this board most of the time. Maybe because of it being Nordic/Scandinavian hair or something.
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My hair is fine and thick and needs a ton of moisture. It doesn't want to fit any category.

It's only straight when I'm blasting it with water in the shower. Otherwise, it's boingy even when wet. Oddly enough, it gets straighter as it dries.

Volume isn't an issue when my hair is short but it definitely can be now. I always have curlier hair below the canopy.

My nape shorties have a massive spring factor. They will form a tight curl that looks as short as normal nape hair and that doesn't even look particularly tight (diameter like sidewalk chalk), then they stretch out 12". Most of my hair only has a spring factor of something like 3 or 4" at its current length. That is part of why I like it long. It's just easier to deal with...even though it means pretty much always having flattish hair on top. My hair doesn't grow in straight, then magically change texture and become curly at the ends. It's the same texture all the way down. Sometimes people don't want to understand that. Oh well.
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Kurlee, I have Scandinavian hair as well. I inherited my curly hair from my Danish great-grandmother. She had a thick head of fine, dark, curly hair. I never met her but my grandma always says how much my hair is like her mother's.
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Sounds like our hairs are a bit similar Rain.
I don't have a volume problem (in fact volume is what I fight a lot of the time). My hair does get much curlier once it has dried but it isn't as long as yours.
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