3c male here and im a newbie so HELP!

hello board im a 3c newbie here with very very thick hair african american by the way... my hair curls very tightly in some places to the textbook corkscrew i guess other areas have been marked with different textures i suppose, and the curls in these areas are a little relaxed and or straight. all i want to do is get the info that is going to help me bring out the very best in my curls. when my hair was shorter i had no problems getting my hair to curl up but i did it the wrong way with pertroleum and heavy greases and such but now that my hair is a BAA(BIG ASS AFRO) I cant seem to get my curls to fall like you guys so HELP! OK CURRENTLY I have stopped using shampoo and only use panteen conditioner you know...the one in the brown bottle for women of color. i leave half of it in and i comb through my hair with a very wide comb to detangle... i only did it once and i was happy i could get a comb through the jungle with relative ease. the curls were minimal and mostly at the ends of my hair...i want to know how to get the spiral or at least a well defined curl throught my hair...so all i did was condition and comb then rinsed half way with only minimal curls...i dont know what to do next what products to buy or any thing to help me out...im a guy so i am highly logical in nature so if someone can tell me exactly what to do step by step to bring the curls out better i would greatly appreciate it... start from the shower to the styling of the curl thanks alot community and im glad to be here!
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Well alot of culies usually apply a styling product to the hair after leaving in some conditioner or a leave in conditioner. Its an experimental thing to see what works for your hair. I have recently myself went back to using IC fantasia gel it has great hold, however I apply a leave in conditioner and some kemi oyl or any other kind of oil before I put it in so I dont get crunch when it dries and also so it still has a shine to it.
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If anyone can help you, these ladies can. My hair is on the road to recovery now. I will recommend you stop using the pantene, though. It dried my hair out really bad and my curls disappeared. I switched to Suave Coconut conditioner and saw a big improvement. Now I'm using Elucence Moisture Balance conditioner and it's working wonders.
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I would recommend using a different conditioner. That particular one has two non-water soluble silicones that can build-up on the hair if not properly washed and/or possibly cause the hair to become frizzy and dry(Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone).

Also, what is your current length? Is conditioner washing working for you? Is there a difference in the condition of your hair compared to when you shampooed?

Since you've been using a conditioner with ingredients that can't be rinsed out without using a surfectant(SLS, SLES, Coco-betaine, etc), I would also recommend getting a clarifying shampoo to remove the buildup to kinda give yourself a clean slate to work with(you would probably only need to use this particular shampoo maybe once a month, depending on what products you are using).

Secondly, you need to use a good conditioner. Alot of curlies swear by Elucence MBC, which is sold here in the Curlmart. This can be used as a regular conditioner or as a leave in. Another conditioner that I like in particular is Trader Joe's Nourish Spa conditioner. It is an excellent detangler, and is good for replenishing lost mositure.

Depending on your length, all you may really need is a good conditioner/leave in conditioner. Maybe you can post a pic of your hair so that we can give better product rec's. hint

HTH
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ok i got that ...lol i think that was a vital step i was missing. but now a new question arises whatever gel or styling custard i apply to my hair should i comb it through with a wide toothed comb or finger comb and when should i stop combing to the air dry?
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also i was wondering once i start using my moisture/styling products do i need to continue to grease my scalp or just start oil treatments every once in a while?
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my best advice:
1) comb ur hair only in the shower or while its submerged in water
2) while ur hair is drying so not touch it! any product goes in while ur hair is still drenched (but out of water)

today this is what i tried: i washed and conditioned my hair as usual then plopped it for not even a minute and let the rest air dry.
the result? shiny well held locks of curly hair

btw i still normally use vaseline
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ok i got that ...lol i think that was a vital step i was missing. but now a new question arises whatever gel or styling custard i apply to my hair should i comb it through with a wide toothed comb or finger comb and when should i stop combing to the air dry?
Originally Posted by 3cmale

Well you have to see what fits for you, some finger comb and some use a comb or brush. It depends what works for your hair. My hair is short so I can still finger comb and still get the product through my hair good enough. No greasing the scalp. Some however do massage the scalp for stimulation with an oil like jojoba oil. And once you apply the product while your hair is still wet dont touch it anymore, because you will interupt the curls.
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i really thank all you curlies for your responses i have learned so much from your few responses thank you all so very much... i just have a few final questions and i will be "out of your hair" lol.

i know some of you are on the no poo routine...i was wondering is it ok to use baby shampoo?

i think im going to use oil now to moisturize my hair...how often do i oil hair with say olive oil and should i do it wet or dry?

finally clipping ends how often and exactly how do you go about doing that

all responses are always appreciated thanks ....3cmale.
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i really thank all you curlies for your responses i have learned so much from your few responses thank you all so very much... i just have a few final questions and i will be "out of your hair" lol.

i know some of you are on the no poo routine...i was wondering is it ok to use baby shampoo?

i think im going to use oil now to moisturize my hair...how often do i oil hair with say olive oil and should i do it wet or dry?

finally clipping ends how often and exactly how do you go about doing that

all responses are always appreciated thanks ....3cmale.
Originally Posted by 3cmale
Hey! I got the email, and you do look like you're a 3c, so you're at the right place.

As for using baby shampoo, some of them have the same ingredients as the harsher shampoos that adults use, but if used in moderation, you shouldn't experience any problems. If I may offer a suggestion......have you ever tried Creme of Nature shampoo? This has always been a favorite of mine. It can be found at most drugstores, and is inexpensive and gentle on the hair.

I may not be able to help you concerning oiling the scalp, as I don't do it as often as I used to(only as needed). I use coconut oil in my hair, but I use it after washing and before using styling product(which is also combined with shea butter). I also use it to moisturize when needed. Olive oil can be very heavy, so I would be careful when using it, because you can end up with some really greasy looking/feeling hair.

If you aren't sure on how to go about trimming your ends, you may fair out better going to a professional. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself if you haven't done it before. Don't want any mishaps, right? You don't really HAVE to clip your ends, but it's recommended to prevent split ends. I normally trim my ends every 3 months.

HTH
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"You see, when it comes to language competence, a true patriot must hit that sweet spot between "job-stealing immigrant" and "liberal elitist." ~Eilonwy

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thanks for your reply shygirl but um i have one more question for those of you actually responding to my messages lol...ok im going to buy the creme of nature thanks to my new friend shygirl but i have stumbled along the acv rinse along the website...just wondering how often should i do the acv rinse? and do i mix it with a lil water or just straight acv? thanks alot
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When I do a ACV rinse, I use about 2 tablespoons per cup of warm water. I tried doing the rinses before, and my scalp didn't particularly like it. But after trying it during the summer months, it has worked much better for me. I do this a max of twice a month. If you use a good shampoo, you normally don't have to worry about doing these rinses. Most of the curlies doing this are on the no-poo routine or a modified version.

HTH
A wonderful mix of coils, curls, corkscrews, and kinks.

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I have a blog now. Follow meeeee!

http://naturalurbanista.blogspot.com/

"You see, when it comes to language competence, a true patriot must hit that sweet spot between "job-stealing immigrant" and "liberal elitist." ~Eilonwy

Wanna have access to the top names in fashion and luxury at up to 70% off retail? Sure you do. http://tinyurl.com/3yxneol

DC metro area
i really thank all you curlies for your responses i have learned so much from your few responses thank you all so very much... i just have a few final questions and i will be "out of your hair" lol.
Originally Posted by 3cmale
hey why don't you stay a while. im sure we might even learn something from you
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you know what..im gonna take you up on that kitty...First im gonna spend some money on the curling products offered here and ill let you ladies know my progress and maybe even put some pics up for the board to see but as for now i have to buy the right shampoo and coditioner/moisturizers for my hair but i will continue im my education on curls....cuz the gurls love the curls and the babes love the waves lol. Thanks for caring kitty and ill stay around ...
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