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Old 02-03-2009, 03:40 PM   #41
 
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I love love love love love (ok I will stop now) VO5 Vanilla Mint Condish as a co wash! I've tried co washing before to no avail, but this time I seem to have success. I've gone almost 2 weeks without shampoo (that's a record) I would usually get too much buildup and go back to shampoo. My hair is looking better than it has in sometime. Plus the smell is to die for.
Oh no - the PJ - it's rising!
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:57 PM   #42
 
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Matrix discontinued their Biolage Curl Defining Creme and my hair has been suffering ever since!!...Any suggestions?!?!?
If you're desperate, you might be able to order some extra bottles online. I saw one website that specializes in discontinued beauty products including the matrix:

http://www.stuff4beauty.com/catalog....fining%20Creme

If you want to try something new, I really like the Komaza coconut curl pudding as a winter curl enhancer (used over a leave-in and under BRHG). It's CG and gives great curl definition:

Ingredients:Coconut Oil, Shea Butter, Cocoa Butter, Sunflower Oil Dipalmitoylethyldimonium Chloride (A derivitive of Palm Oil) aloe vera, acrylates, alkyl acrylates, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Polysorbate 20, Cinnamom Cassia. Sorbate, cinnamon cassia.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:08 PM   #43
 
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Matrix discontinued their Biolage Curl Defining Creme and my hair has been suffering ever since!!

I've tried 20 different products and can't get results anywhere near what I got with Biolage Curl Defining Creme.

My routine consisted of washing every three to four days, however conditioning every day and applying about 6 pumps of Biolage Curl Defining Creme to wet hair, then letting it air-dry. My curls were beautifully well defined and extremely soft to the touch. My curls looked and felt so healthy.

Now my hair is a mess! Sometimes it's as dry as straw and the curls just aren't as curly anymore.

Any suggestions?!?!? (I'm a 3b, here's a pic with Bioloage Curl Defining Creme: )
Wow - I'd be wanting that stuff back if my hair looked as good as yours did with it, too! Very lush and healthy.

Have you tried ebay? I found this for you, but it looks like they only have 4 left. http://www.stuff4beauty.com/catalog....fining%20Creme

I know Sally's makes knock-offs of a bunch of other Matrix stuff - do they make this one by any chance?

ETA - I checked at Sally's online, and I can't seem to find any ingredient lists, but here's what I found: http://www.sallybeauty.com/Curl-Crem...efault,pd.html I think that is their knock-off of your Matrix.
Also, Sally's has this one: http://www.sallybeauty.com/Noodle-He...efault,pd.html but again, I can't check ingredients, so I can't tell you if it's silicone free or not (if that even matters to you). Anyway, I thought you might want to take a look!
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:39 AM   #44
 
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I am in love with FX Curl Booster Fixative Gel. Amazing stuff!!
Me too! I just started using it and it definitely outperforms Angell!
I just discovered this stuff also -- used it today for the first time - great results so far!! Great curl definition, just the right amount of hold.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:17 AM   #45
 
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I am in love with FX Curl Booster Fixative Gel. Amazing stuff!!
Me too! I just started using it and it definitely outperforms Angell!
I just discovered this stuff also -- used it today for the first time - great results so far!! Great curl definition, just the right amount of hold.
I still love this stuff! I know I'm repeating myself, but this was the first product I used when I first came to this site and started going curly. Hundreds of products later, I still go back to this. If I had stuck to it, I would have saved a lot of money -- not as much fun, though!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:31 AM   #46
 
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Me too! I just started using it and it definitely outperforms Angell!
I just discovered this stuff also -- used it today for the first time - great results so far!! Great curl definition, just the right amount of hold.
I still love this stuff! I know I'm repeating myself, but this was the first product I used when I first came to this site and started going curly. Hundreds of products later, I still go back to this. If I had stuck to it, I would have saved a lot of money -- not as much fun, though!!
I hear ya! I cringe everytime I look at my product "graveyard"!

Ok, well the hair has dried -- I think this stuff is awesome, my hair has dried into soft, but defined curls with great definition!! A keeper for sure - so, for about $4 this fx special effects fixative gel is worth a try! I got it on sale at my local Drug Mart for $2.99!
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #47
 
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I'm a 3a and my absolute favorite product right now is Matrix Biolage Curl Defining Creme. I have very thick, coarse hair and this is the only product I've found that makes my hair soft and the curls defined in a natural, non-crunchy way. I happened to pick up a bottle on sale at my hairdresser's and now I can't do without it. I've never used a product that left such soft hair. The pump bottle was $13.95 at my salon and you really just one or two squirts after washing. It can also be used on dry hair, according to the package, but I haven't had to try that yet.
Matrix discontinued their Biolage Curl Defining Creme and my hair has been suffering ever since!!

I've tried 20 different products and can't get results anywhere near what I got with Biolage Curl Defining Creme.

My routine consisted of washing every three to four days, however conditioning every day and applying about 6 pumps of Biolage Curl Defining Creme to wet hair, then letting it air-dry. My curls were beautifully well defined and extremely soft to the touch. My curls looked and felt so healthy.

Now my hair is a mess! Sometimes it's as dry as straw and the curls just aren't as curly anymore.

Any suggestions?!?!? (I'm a 3b, here's a pic with Bioloage Curl Defining Creme: )
Supercuts has some in stock, at least the one near me has plenty and right now all biolage is buy 1 get 1 50% off...if you can find a supercuts nearby, maybe you can pick some up!! I think I might swing by there tonight and grab one!
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is it really?! i just used that product ):
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:49 PM   #49
 
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My homemade flaxseed gel. Works way better than CK!
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:23 PM   #50
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I like Suave 2-1 for Kids Coconut
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Old 02-24-2009, 03:38 PM   #51
 
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hypercurl from system professional. you can order it in the internet.it's the best product i've ever used. makes curls super defined and shiny!!
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:21 PM   #52
 
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I don't know about you but i am a moose FREAK!!!!!!
i cannot have my hair done without moose!! I of course have to have the right moose so if u are a moose freak like me i like to use Noodle Head! it is the generic brand of Bed Head so ya i really like it
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:43 PM   #53
 
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Now it's Donna Marie Honey&Aloe curling jelly. Nice clumps, curl formation, no frizz, shine, hold, body and smells great!... and there is no nasty stuff in it!
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Wow this thread surprised me because I didn't know so many people liked Suave Coconut as a leave-in. I may have to give this a try.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:37 PM   #55
 
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My current favorite product is good old KCCC!
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