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Old 09-02-2005, 03:49 PM   #1
 
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Default so i'm thinking of trying something new...

i've never tried devacurl products...well, i've just tried angell, but that's it..and i was driving home from work today, thinking of all the curlies who like using massey's "shampoos" and rave about devaone conditioner...and i was thinking to myself, maybe that's what i'm missing! maybe that's what i need!!!

and THEN i started thinking, maybe it's not the products i'm using, but that i'm using TOO many products...maybe using just a leave in conditioner is enough now because my hair is so much healthier...and that i only need a little gel in there to tame the frizz or something...
i was thinking when my hair was long before, i didn't use much styling product at all...sometimes just a little pomade...sometimes just a little mousse...sometimes just a little gel...but maybe now that my hair is really truely healthy, hydrated, and shiney, it'll curl on it's own! and i just need conditioner!
maybe that's what i'm missing!!! maybe that's what i need!!!

i guess i'm just looking for all the answers right now...so if you have all the answers, or at least some of them , please share!
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:18 PM   #2
 
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I do that a lot of days, and my hair still looks pretty good to me. For extra curl and hold and frizzfighting, I still do use gel, though.

I find that honey rinses help not needing as much gel, and oft let my hair look presentable on the majority of days I dont use product at all.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:36 PM   #3
 
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I'd have to second the honey suggestion, I put a drop or two in my gel. I don't need near as much gel and I no longer need hairspray. I've gotten better results than I ever did with cones or any leave in. Even on days when I think my hair looks less than spectacular, I've had people come up to me at work and ask what I do to make my hair "curl like that." I have gotten more complements on my hair in the last month than in the last several years! Hope you're close to your HG routine in everything!!!
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:21 PM   #4
 
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I've been loving One C lately and Angell lately. I use the One C and leave some in and then put alot of Angell over it. Angell doesn't work for me unless I use alot but over the One C, it's been awesome. Pretty frizz free and decent 2nd day hair.

(me with no products is undefined and poofy, not pretty! )
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:22 PM   #5
 
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I find that honey rinses help not needing as much gel, and oft let my hair look presentable on the majority of days I dont use product at all.
Same here! Just last night after doing the WDT, I did my usual cold honey rinse as my last step, and then added a little B&A, and I had nice chunky waves and curls this morning!
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:51 AM   #6
 
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hmmmm...
so i'm thinking i'm going to start this new routine tomorrow morning.
let me know what you think!

-wash with elucence conditioner or creme of nature
-condition with 1/2 elucence 1/2 honey (my hair LOVES this combo)
-full rinse
-put elucence back in

now heres where i get a little crazy...
what if instead of doing a quick rinse, like i have been lately, i did a cold honey rinse??!?!?!

i know...it's insane!!!! but i'm thinking it'll really be pretty good!
it'll rinse my elucence out a little getting it more evenly distributed, rewet my hair so it don't have stringy curls from raking it in, uses honey so i'll take care of the shine, AND it'll be cold water so it'll help with the shine too!!!
since it's the first day, i'll probably try my hair naked after this point, just so i can get an idea of what my hair looks like natural...then if needed, i'll use a tiny B&A next time...or some angell...or some biosilk RHG.

call me crazy, ladies, but i think this might work!!!!
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Hehehhe, that's what I was trying to say. I use a final cold honey rinse everytime, works great!
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:17 AM   #8
 
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I do that routine, except I skip this step:

condition with 1/2 elucence 1/2 honey (my hair LOVES this combo)

I just go from washing, to condition and honey rinse.
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right! that's how I do it too.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:09 PM   #10
 
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Careful with the honey meghan on your final cold honey rinse. I made the mistake of using too much and my hair was AWFUL! I used probably 2 tbs in my water bottle (20 oz). My hair was sooooo sticky and crunchy, heck, it was almost solid it was so crunchy. I gathered it into a ponytail and the curls just stuck straight out, no movement AT ALL. It's kind of funny now but I never would have gone out with my hair like that.

Just a warning... I hope your experiment goes well!! Simplicity is so much easier!
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Another thing about the honey, I know some people think that the kind of honey you use doesn't matter, but I have much better results with the kind I've bought from the health food store, the 100% pure clove or wildflower honey. It doesn't get grainy and sugary like the kind I had been buying from the grocery store.
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so i did the routine yesterday. my hair felt wonderful! and i was surprised at how little frizz i had! while my hair was wavy and i had a couple spirals, my normal amount of spirals wasn't there...
so today, i'm going to add this to my routine and see how it works:

-scrunch in a small amount of B&A gel into the canopy

the lower layers don't need any help at all, and i think when my hair is longer, i'll just do the other routine...but my canopy especially on the left side, just doesn't like curling without a little encouragement. i just get half curls/waves.

i do have to say, i LOVED the way my hair felt! no crunchiness at all! no matter how much i scrunch out my crunch, i'm always paranoid about how my hair feels, and how it doesn't feel "natural". (especially with the biosilk RHG for some reason).
B&A was the closest thing to natural curls for me...
otherwise, i'm thinking about ordering some Jessicurls Gelebration or Awe Inspiraling spray and just using that on my top layer and as my "Gel" to encourage curls.

NOW what do you curlies think??
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Sounds great to me!
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Careful with the honey meghan on your final cold honey rinse. I made the mistake of using too much and my hair was AWFUL! I used probably 2 tbs in my water bottle (20 oz). My hair was sooooo sticky and crunchy, heck, it was almost solid it was so crunchy. I gathered it into a ponytail and the curls just stuck straight out, no movement AT ALL. It's kind of funny now but I never would have gone out with my hair like that.

Just a warning... I hope your experiment goes well!! Simplicity is so much easier!
Just wanted to say, I could've been the one writing this! I have done this before, and my curls looked like something out of a wax museum. Now, I just mix the honey with my conditioner and have not yet been brave enough to make another attempt at the honey rinse.

Can you guys help me refine my technique a bit? You guys all have such stunning hair, and I want to have stunning hair too. What honey-to-water proportion do you guys use?
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Actually, mine varies as far as proportions go, but 1-2 tsb of honey per 1-2 cups of cold water. You could add a drop of condish to it if it's been too sticky or crunchy for you before. I usually just pour it over my hair, but sometimes I spray it on, and sometimes I pour it in a bowl and let the lengths of my hair sit in it for a minute or two.
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the only time i had the sticky thing was when i tried adding it to my styling gel...i think i got a little over zealous.
i think lush is right on talking about the brand/type of honey you use. i tried the honeybear honey from my grocery store and now i'm using honey from trader joes (natural/organic/nothing added) and it makes a huge difference. no stickiness at all!
for my cold rinse, i was worried the honey wouldn't dissolve, so i put 1-2 tbs of honey in the bottom of a huge cup, added a smidge of hot water, swirled it around until it dissolved, and then added the cold water.
i actually was worried i rinsed out too much of my conditioner, so i scrunched in a dime of conditioner with a half dime of honey, just to be sure i was covered!
i'm doing the routine adding the B&A on the top layer today. oh! and we found our camera and cord, so i'll try to post pictures! (but only if it looks nice! )
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I don't have any problem with my honey dissolving if I pour half the bottle with water first, then add the honey, then add the rest of the water and shake immediately. That way the honey doesn't get a chance to stay at the bottom of the bottle and get too attached. I was doing the honey first the first couple of times, but it was taking me longer to loosen it from the bottom. And like you said, adding a drop of condish can help.

Hope you have a great hair day! I can't wait to see the good pics!
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Salmagundi, it's a bit of a relief to hear I'm not the only one! :P

Maybe my problem is what you guys are saying, since I am just using grocery store honey, and not even a honey bear but a generic hive-shaped honey bottle. Shocking, I know.



Hope it works Meg! I'd love to see your pictures.
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Thank you, ladies! I knew you guys would have some good suggestions. For some reason, it never occurred to me that the brand of honey could make any difference, so it is really interesting that you guys got completely different results with health food store honey.

I'll try it out tonight and let you guys know how it turns out. Meg, I can't wait to see your pictures.
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Totally forgot about this post! Anyway, I tried the honey rinse with more water, less honey, and a drop of Elucence and had the best hair day ever. I didn't seem to need quite as much gel either--just three or four puddles of B&A gel (which isn't much product for me). My only complaint was that it took my hair a good five or six hours to dry, but at least it turned out to be well worth the wait!
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