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Old 09-22-2005, 10:39 AM   #1
 
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ok i'm half black & half white, and i have really really thick, curly hair. the curls on the top and bottom of my head are ok and i can manage with them, however the middle section is extremly thick and has bearly any curl to it. so if i did decide to texturize it i'd only do the middle section-yea, i kno that sounds crazy, but thats the only part that needs to be tamed. i've been natural for the last 3 years, and i'm really scared 2 put any chemicals in it. i've had relaxers before and they toally killed my hair, it was always breaking off very difficult 2 work with. if a texturizer is anything like a relaxer, then i sooo don't want 2 use it. does any one have any sugestions or ideas-thanks
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I am mixed too, and am growing out a texturizer. It took my hair from probably 3b/c to more 3b and did make it easier and more consistent to manage.

It is basically a light relaxer, but my hair is usually fairly healthy because I condition and oil a lot - you have to invest that.

If you get one, get a good one with a proper application technique and not just a mild version of a regular relaxer.

The Jazma wash and wear is great - that's the one I have. Read about it here:

http://www.jazma.com/relaxer.html
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I suggest you exhaust all of your styling options before you go the chemical route. Try shingling: it's a great method available on Curve Salon's website.

Just remember that if you texturize and don't like it, your 3 years of being natural will all be in vain. Take some time to get to know and ACCEPT your hair texture.
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i texturize about three times a year. i went completely natural about four years ago and had to spend a tremendous amount of time dealing with my hair because it was really thick and hard to manage. i finally got fed up and had a mild relaxer mixed with conditioner put in for about 10 mins and it's made a huge difference. my hair is still curly but it's not as thick, a lot softer and much easier to work with. i can also blowdry it if i want to change my look, which is fun every once in awhile.

i realize that some natural curlies don't like the idea of using chemicals, and i totally respect that, but i decided that my priority was having hair that i could manage and style relatively easily. i'm really happy with how my hair looks now and don't regret it at all.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:38 PM   #5
 
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My daughter had a very tight spot on her hair, in the middle back section. we put a very mild texturizer on that section only and it worked out great. We just made sure to go to someone who had a lot of experience doing that kind of thing. I was very mild. We did this 9 months ago and you can't even see a difference in the hair there. No damage or anything, just a more consistent texture all over rather than that one spot that was "different"
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My daughter had a very tight spot on her hair, in the middle back section. we put a very mild texturizer on that section only and it worked out great. We just made sure to go to someone who had a lot of experience doing that kind of thing. I was very mild. We did this 9 months ago and you can't even see a difference in the hair there. No damage or anything, just a more consistent texture all over rather than that one spot that was "different"
vivasmom, I don't recommend doing this when your daughter is only 3!!!!! I would let her hair settle down first - usually chemicals are not recommended until at least after menstruation - my mama made us wait till our last year of high school if we absolutely HAD to have it (she tried to talk us out of it in vain...) Also, it may send her some bad messages about her hair.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:52 PM   #7
 
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i had a nightmare the other night that i texturized my hair and it came out completely straight. weird....

but anyway, i agree with portae--try using different non chemical methods first and if you still arent happy then do what you have to. the reason i say that is because chemical processes are permanent, so if you dont like the results, youre just stuck.
like amneris said, a texturizer is just a mild relaxer. is the middle section of your hair curly at all? because if its not, a texturizer wont do anything except straighten it even more.
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i texturize about three times a year. i went completely natural about four years ago and had to spend a tremendous amount of time dealing with my hair because it was really thick and hard to manage. i finally got fed up and had a mild relaxer mixed with conditioner put in for about 10 mins and it's made a huge difference. my hair is still curly but it's not as thick, a lot softer and much easier to work with. i can also blowdry it if i want to change my look, which is fun every once in awhile.

i realize that some natural curlies don't like the idea of using chemicals, and i totally respect that, but i decided that my priority was having hair that i could manage and style relatively easily. i'm really happy with how my hair looks now and don't regret it at all.
I do the same exact thing with my teenage daughter's hair! Been
doing this for almost 3 years. Her hair looks great. It's past BSL.
She can straighten it and go curly! These days she is going mostly
curly, which makes me very happy!
I use Just for me relaxer mixed with a good deep conditioner with excellent results.
(WARNING: Not recommending that you try this at home! This works for us. It may not work for you.)
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:46 PM   #9
 
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i had a nightmare the other night that i texturized my hair and it came out completely straight. weird....
This nightmare actually happened to me thanx to Rusk anti-curl =/
But anyways, I don't really have much advice except for the fact that I regret my relaxer. I realize now that I took my hair for granted and I want it back! But I know it's different for everyone, and all relaxers are different. Just be sure to do LOTS of research.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:35 PM   #10
 
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I suggest trying the CG routine. You could even start out modified and see how your hair reacts from there. You are already natural, so nourishing your hair should NOT be the *trauma* it was for me. I had to transition (still am) into a hair type I didn't even know.

I would try this...
Try washing your hair with a cheap cone free conditioner ONCE and see what happens. Try Suave Naturals Milk and Honey. Rinse out and then add some more for leave in. After that, put some Aloe Vera either Fruit of the Earth or Lily of the Dessert (healthfood store). Use a small quantity or your hair will look wet for hours. You can even add ONE drop of Olive Oil to the AV.

You could also get a haircut that reduces bulk. Just some suggestions since you already know that a relaxer will damage your hair.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:25 PM   #11
 
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What kind of haircut can you get to reduce bulk?

I have a similar problem. I have the crown area that does not want to do anything but frizz. I thought about a texturizer. In fact, I had one for a while when I had my hair cut boy short, and it did help to make the curl uniform. I eventually let it grow out because I figured the point of going natural was to get away from the chemicals (and not having to get a touch up every 6 weeks helped my purse too). Believe it or not, the last time I had uniform curl was when I went to my hairdresser, who specializes in natural hair. She combed gel through my hair and put me under a dryer. My hair looked like a curl kit all over, except it was a little dry.

Everyone is different and different things work for different people, but I do agree with those that say you should exhaust the nonchemical resources first. If you aren't careful, you could end up with scalp damage and hair that won't grow back. At least try to find a stylist in your area that specializes in natural hair. Let me stress SPEACIALIZES IN NATURAL HAIR, otherwise, they will tell you that nothing can be done and they will talk you into a relaxer....
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:02 AM   #12
 
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I'm not crazy about some bulk-reducing haircuts. They look good at first and grow out weird. The Ouidad carve and slice type cut where some curls are chopped to make various length layers has worked well for me if the layers aren't too extreme (the last time the ends were thinned more than I wanted) but I am embracing my volume and growing out layers now! (I'll start over when my hair is longer and more natural.)

I think shorter layers in the crown and around the face allow the curls to be bouncier and have a rounder shape and get less stretched out with weight, and then a few layers a couple of inches from the ends of the hair can be nice. It is best if the stylist cuts hair dry and cuts curls individually.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:28 AM   #13
 
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I'm like Amneris--I don't like bulk reducing haircuts either.

I think a lot of us have a rough patch--I know I have a clump of hair at the point where the top of my skull curves downwards that is woolier and more stubborn than the rest. It was the same section that never grew past a certain length when I was relaxing as well, so it's always been there. I use more conditioner and product on it and it works out fine. There was a curly here who had her rough patch texturized whenever she went in for a haircut, but I don't remember who it was.

I won't do it to mine, only because I don't think I would keep up with the touch ups and I'd rather just try to work with it without using chemicals.
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:53 PM   #14
 
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Been there done that and I've got pictures to prove it!
I would go with long layers.
I agree with Amneris they look very good for about 3-4 months
and then it starts to grow out unevenly.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:16 AM   #15
 
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I hope that you decided against texturizing. I think it is so much better for your hair to just deal with the curls/waves/textures, all of it, whatever you happen to have.

Of course, texturizing is not the end of the world,and can look really pretty (I sometimes miss my type 2 waves from texturizing). But as many have posted, it can create a vicious cycle that is not exactly good for your hair.
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:13 AM   #16
 
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well what did you decide?
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