Help! How do I keep my hair from poofing after it dries?

I know this is long and drawn out....but PLEASE PLEASE read this novella and pass any suggestions!

Hello ladies! I'm new to NC and have been perusing the forums like a fanatic! I have 3b/3c hair (not sure.....just going by the "s" pattern). I posted a pic below I found on another site to show what my hair looks like when curly. This is the exact way my hair looks, just longer....and a lot thicker/poofier. I just tried Burt's Bees Super Shiny Grapefruit & Sugar Beet Shampoo today and am AMAZED & pleased with the results! My hair really is super shiny, clean and soft! I also used Jane Carter Solution Condition & Sculpt to style. The results are mixed: I love the shine and anti-frizz, but I'm not too keen on the crunchy/hard hold.


Here's my dilemma: I am not sure what I should do to my hair to: moisturize my hair and scalp, define and hold my curls, style and wear my hair. I know...I'm in a sorry state, huh? I have longish hair (approx 3.5" past shoulders). It is super thick, super thirsty (dry), very curly, and did I mention super thick? It's beautiful, thinned and silky when wet, but thick, dry and frizzy when dry. My typical care is wash and poo (with anything until I've recently read about sulfates, etc). I air dry and then apply Proclaim Miracle 7 Oil Enriched with Olive Oil and press it straight. When I wear it curly, I can only go for a few days (1 week top) before I go back to the pressing comb. I usually use Fantasia IC to style. I wash, apply gel, air dry. And after it poofs and swells, I pull it up into a ponytail and gel down the sides. But that's it. Of course, my scalp and hair reflect that.

I see everyone's pics with beautiful, shiny, manageable curly hair but mine always looks wild and unkempt. My usual curly style is to pull it up in a wild, high ponytail. What are you guys using to make your hair so shiny? How are your curls so defined? How do you manage to keep it from swelling up? How do you keep that "still wet", weighted down, defined curls look? I would like for my hair to lay closer to my head (like Honeycomb's long hair pics). Or just to be able to wear a decent curly updo like Honeycomb (and not this raggedy ponytail)!

I would like to purchase Kinky Curly Curling Custard and Knot Today. But I know I need to moisturize my scalp and hair as well as condition and deep condition and clarify and have some sort of regimen like wash & twist the night before, satin pillow cases, etc, etc.......this is overwhelming!

Thank you for any and all advice, suggestions, lectures

It's 3am....I'm dead serious.....
I need help! I wanna post my shiny curls and smiling faced pictures too!


LOL - just thought I should add that this beautiful lady is not me. I just used her hair to describe mine, as I don't have curly pics yet.

Last edited by HighlyAddictive; 08-06-2008 at 11:09 AM.
what type of leave in conditioner are you using?; after washing or co washing; i leave some condtioner in/ then i apply a leave in condtioner; examples ( garnier fruit curl and shine/ karens body beautiful hair milk) my hair like cremes then i apply a little gel for holding; now this is just for my wash and go



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Hi KD. Thanks for the reply. You have gorgeous hair. I'm not using a leave-in or a rinse out condish. And what is co washing; using a conditioner to wash? And what's the difference between wash and go and something else? Are you styling or following some sort of regimen the night before that makes your hair look so good?

Thanks again!
by not using a leave in or a rinse out conditioner, youre basically preventing yourself from ever having the hair that you want to have.
the good news is, it sounds like your hair is just dry and just needs some tlc to be happy healthy moisturized curls!
burts bee's is a great product line (i use it on my duaghter's hair), but often times their shampoos dont provide enough moisture for 3cs. but even if you dont need to switch shampoos, making sure you keep the shampooing down to a minumum (one a week is usually the most you would need) would up the moisture level in yor hair. alot of people here conditoiner wash (aka co wash), which is using conditoiner to wash your hair. im sure if you poke around the site some more, you can easily find a ton of info on it. the book curly girl by lorraine massey is pretty much where the whole thing started and when you read "cg routine/cg friendly/cg" its referring to the curly hair routine/principles outlined in that book.
a wash n go is basically just that: washing/wetting your hair and then letting it dry. there are a few other ways some people wear there hair curly: braid outs (braiding your hair and then once its dry undoing the braids), twist outs (same thing but with twists), finger coils (twisting small sections of hair around your finger to make ringlets)...

but anyway to get back on to your original question, using a conditioner after shampooing and leaving a conditioner in your hair would make a great improvement in your hair's condition. also, doing deep conditioning treatments once a week would be great. your hair could even benefit from mixing some type of oil in with your conditioner. also, since you use heat alot, making sure you use a heat protectant is a must. my hair loves thick heavy conditoiners (my favorites are elucence moisture benefits conditioner, giovanni 50/50, and jessicurl weekly deep treatment).
you may not need to twist your hair before you go to bed, it all dependson the products you use and how you apply them. a stain pillowcase would be a great start though! this is so long, im going to shut up now....

good luck and welcome to the site!
Hi Highlyaddicitve!! You and your hair are beautiful! Welcome. I'm kinda new to this thing too and my old routine was the same as yours. Wash, condition, rinse and pull my hair up in a big poofy ponytail b/c I didn't know what else to do. I joined NC like a week and a half ago and since I joined I've been wearing my hair curly (which btw is the longest I've EVER worn it curly). I LOVE IT:blob7 : I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

My suggestions...start simple. Try co-washing first and see what happens. And yes, co-washing is washing your hair with conditioner (a good one that your hair likes). I use Trader Joe's Nourish Spa at the moment and I love it!. And use a microfiber towel or t-shirt on your hair and remove enough water just so it doesn't drip.

I'm still trying to figure out the deep conditioner treatment, when to clarify, how to moisturize, etc. So we can go on this journey together if you want.

Keep us posted. And please offer any suggestions you have.
I need and want help to take proper care of my curls.
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Hello ladies! Thank you thank you thank you subbrock for your info. I definitely started reading all the threads and wanted to buy/try everything! I'm starting out today on a routine, hoping to tweak it and pick up more along the way. I want to move away from the press for a while. I am really looking forward to the WDT & henna - I've gotta pace myself!

curlydelta- Hi & thank you! I've been reading your threads as well. I am in love with your hair!! So were you pressing prior to going curly? I wonder if a BC would benefit me because of the dryness. But actually my ends are pretty healthy. I usually clip my ends every other week - only very little. It may seem a bit excessive but it really helps my hair grow. I've gained quite a bit of length since the beginning of the year. I found a really nice thread here about making a sticky for newbies about regimens, products, acronyms, etc. It's under 4a - Thread Idea for a sticky (everyone needed). There's sooo much info there as everyone brainstormed. I'm checking out the coconut milk/lime concoction and oil rinses. And I'm stalking curlynikki at this moment - her hair is ridiculous!! I love it!

Looking forward to talking more!
Highlyaddictive! Yes, I wear my hair straight a lot. I blowdry with a round brush, flat iron, and wrap my hair everyday. So I probably used heat 1-2 times a week. Before I cut my hair in December it was mid-lower back length and I trimmed it often like you. But it was so much hair so I straightened it a lot. I wore it curly some but not for more than 2-3 days.

I will check out the 4a thread you suggested! Thank you!! We can do this!!!

P.S. LMAO at you stalking curlynikki, but I understand
I need and want help to take proper care of my curls.
http://public.fotki.com/CurlyDelta/ *added a few pics 12/30/08*
Hi KD. Thanks for the reply. You have gorgeous hair. I'm not using a leave-in or a rinse out condish. And what is co washing; using a conditioner to wash? And what's the difference between wash and go and something else? Are you styling or following some sort of regimen the night before that makes your hair look so good?

Thanks again!
Originally Posted by HighlyAddictive
Thanks HA! I would most def put leave in as a must to cut down the poofiness unless you are looking for a more froed look;

i co wash with suave and herbal essences hello hydration; at this present moment i am doin two strand twist and twist out; i've been doin this for about a month to retain length; wash and gos can really take a toll on your hair; i did one wash and go for the month of july; you can see it in my july album; hope this helps! make sure to post some pics soon



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This is my regimen and it seems to be helping control frizz & poofiness it has taken a while to get to this point, so it is trial & error, trying other peoples techniques and or products may help you find what works for you, don't get discouraged:

Co-Wash & detangle (Mebco Tortoise Shower Detangler) with Natures Gate Chamomile Replenishing Conditioner for Color Treated Hair & VO5's Free Me Freesia (purple) in any order(depending on my mood). I also sometimes add honey to the conditioner. I don't have color treated hair, but the chamomile one is so thick & creamy, I fell in love with it.

I then rinse, towel dry & part into 3 sections, back (from ear to ear horizontally) right side, left side (parted down the middle) & add Shea Moisture Leave-In, then oil to seal & shine (Pure coconut, Wild Hair Growth or Africas Best Ultimate herbal oil) whichever I have on hand.

Next I use Aubrey Organics Mandarin Magic Moisturizing Jelly, all products are added with the fingers raking through each section 1 at a time, then shake like a rock star to seperate curl. I stop here if I want a light/soft bed head look, but if I want a little more sleek, clean controlled curl, I add L.A Looks Curl (teal blue) just on the top layer, kind of like smoothing into a pony tail to tame frizz, you don't need a lot since it is a mega hold gel, oh and no need to shake again.

Once my hair has dried (which used to take at least 2 hours now only takes about 30 minutes to an hour since I started using the Mandarin Magic Jelly) I scrunch any crunch I might have, until I get the volume I want.

To clarify, I use any shampoo I can get my hands on, since I only use it 2-3 times a month & I havnt found an all natural one thats seems to clean my scalp really well. If anyone has any suggestions let me know.

I use Henna & Indigo about every 4-6 weeks
I deep condition as needed with Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose Conditioner+plain yogurt+pure coconut oil & honey, with heat 20 minutes, without heat overnight. If you have any breakage try a protein treatment like Aphogee..

I was trying to be detailed, sorry so long. I try to keep it simple but it took a while to get here & my pocket book can't handle PJism too much longer!!! Hope this helps!
Hair loves:
VO5 Free Me Freesia
Sheamoisture Products
Curls for Target brand
L.A Looks Curls Mega Hold Gel (occasionally)
Aloe, oils, butters, Henna/Indigo
Curly fros, braid outs, twists, twist outs & puffs.

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You have very beautiful hair and I use to suffer from the same problem as you and everyone so far has said everything that I was going to say....leave in conditioner. I just Pantene Relaxed and Natural Intensive Moisturizing for Women of Color Conditioner. It is not a specified "leave in" but its very thick and not to strongly scented so its sets the curls really nice. I have enjoyed it so much. It is probably my favorite product. I have never tried any Burts Bee's Hair products but I might have to now.
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Hair Loves: EcoStyler Olive Oil Gel, Protein Conditioners
Hair Hates: Sulfates, Daily Hair Drenchings with Water, Gels with alot heavy PVP's
You have very beautiful hair and I use to suffer from the same problem as you and everyone so far has said everything that I was going to say....leave in conditioner. I just Pantene Relaxed and Natural Intensive Moisturizing for Women of Color Conditioner. It is not a specified "leave in" but its very thick and not to strongly scented so its sets the curls really nice. I have enjoyed it so much. It is probably my favorite product. I have never tried any Burts Bee's Hair products but I might have to now.
Originally Posted by multiracialcurls89
Multi - I absolutely love the results from Burt's Bees Shampoo! I actually saw the difference in the one wash. You know how your hair sort of gets a reddish hue in the summer? (well mine does anyway) It's pH balanced & paraben, phthalate, lauryl/sulfate free (which is supposed to be bad). This cleansed and balanced my hair (& scalp) so thoroughly that it is raven black again! Love it!

Ms_Isela - Most appreciative of you breaking down your "system"! Hate to be the one to knock you off your PJ wagon, but you should really give Burt's Bees a try. There are a few other poos that sound really good as well as the one I've used. I'd actually looked at the AO Jelly. So it works well to style, huh?

Okay - so I've bought the AO HSR, Giovanni 50:50, and some Vo5 Tea Therapy condish. But now I'm just sitting here looking at them (lol - smh). I figured I'd use the 50:50 to dt, the Vo5 to co-wash and the HSR to leave-in. Does that sound about right? Or should my leave in be an actual leave-in condish? Oh, and I also have Jane Carter Condition & Sculpt to help style. I smooth on a little Proclaim Natural 7 Oil to moisturize and soften the crunch. I don't have all the oils the other ladies talk about....yet.I'd like to try the henna - maybe for a bit of color (streaky golden/ sandy brown highlights??) and/or cassia to lengthen the curls, add shine, etc etc.

Sorry for all the questions! I swear I'm on the way to the library today to get the Curly Girls book!
Thanks again everyone!

Last edited by HighlyAddictive; 08-06-2008 at 12:42 PM.
if you have dry hair you could probably benefit more from using a regular conditioner as aleave in rather than a leave in as a leave in.
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AO Jelly is bomb!! try it, won't hurt nothing, but your pocket book for a little while LOL!!! I definately will try the Burts Bees shampoo!! I have used the AOHSR as a leave-in but it left a build up on my scalp, so let me know how it works for you!! don't get me wrong, I sill use it as a deep conditioner, i just think it was to thick for my fine hair!!

Please keep us updated & pics!!!
Hair loves:
VO5 Free Me Freesia
Sheamoisture Products
Curls for Target brand
L.A Looks Curls Mega Hold Gel (occasionally)
Aloe, oils, butters, Henna/Indigo
Curly fros, braid outs, twists, twist outs & puffs.

Check me out on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/user/SOPHISTI...A?feature=mhum

http://public.fotki.com/SophisticatedMama/

Stop buying things we donít need, with money we donít have, to impress people we donít like!!! Adrian Rogers
Yes! I know exactly what your talkin about my hair is a dark brown hue right now and in the winter is black and right now I miss your black hair so much. So what type of Burt's Bee's shampoo do you use? Because I know there is many different types.
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Hair Loves: EcoStyler Olive Oil Gel, Protein Conditioners
Hair Hates: Sulfates, Daily Hair Drenchings with Water, Gels with alot heavy PVP's
Multi - I used the Burt's Bees Super Shiny Grapefruit & Sugar Beet Shampoo. My son used it too and he looooves his hair! His is a lot finer than mine, just really dry. He's been begging me to let him grow it out (Corbin Blue style) and now that I'm armed with so much info I told him yes!

ms_isela - ya killing me, ya really killing me! I want to buy the AO Jelly and AOHC that I've heard so much about....and the henna....and the sock bun foam thing cuz my buns look crazy....and I still need a Denman. LMAO! I said this wasn't going to happen to meeeee! I need (ha!) the jelly to style while I'm waiting for my SO to bring the KCCC back from his L.A. trip...right? I'm still in the air about AO HSR. I've been using it as an overnight DT. My hair seems weak sometimes while wet....but not after it has dried. ???

You have beautiful curls. Did the definition come over time, post-treatment (henna or something), with a specific styling product? I need to add a new siggy line: I love buying products with a purpose!
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Last edited by HighlyAddictive; 08-12-2008 at 11:27 AM.
Welcome to the board!

I also have THICK, THICK, THICK hair so I know what you're talking about!

My hair will never lay as close to my scalp as some of the other ladies on this site. Finer haired curlies have less volume which results in less "poof" compared to us super thick-haired ones! LOL

I've found that leave-in's don't do anything for me. Leaving actual conditioner in my hair and using it as a leave-in as been much more beneficial! It's helped to combat dryness and adds more weight to my hair to help control the massive volume. I seal in the mositure with organic coconut oil. But you can use any oil that works in your hair. I prefer coconut and olive.

Eco-styler gel (yup the cheap brown stuff!) combined with conditioner left in helps a lot of thick haired curlies with decreasing volume. I only use this combo if I'm going out to a club or something and it works great! I can dance non-stop for hours and my hair doesn't go poof crazy!

Well best of luck experimenting! I'm gonna shut up now!

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