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Old 09-20-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
 
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Anyone have any recommendations for really dry hair?

Mine seems to need constant attention in this respect. I have 3c hair, which I usually co wash a few times per week, and soak it in condish to air dry, and I'm I following a non-CG regimen because of this dryness. In the last few weeks I've tried olive and coconut oil to seal in moisture, and at first I liked them, but it seems like my hair is just eating it up.

So today I tried using some pomade applied in small sections to the length of my hair and concentrated on the ends to combat this dryness in my hair. I just touched my hair and it feels as if it's drying out yet again!
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:42 PM   #2
 
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Hi Bekkapoo,

Is your hair coarse at all? I ask because my hair is very coarse - like wire or fine plastic thread, LOL. At any rate, oils seem to work initially for me and then they eventually seem like they are actually blocking out moisture on my hair. They seem to coat my hair and since water and oil don't mix the moisture I need from the water just seems to run right off my hair. That being said, what I have found is that water really is the only way to get the moisture I need. In my case, when it seems my hair is drying out, I clarify - I like to use redkin hair cleansing cream, and then I deep condition with a coneless conditioner - Jessicurl WDT or Oyin Honey Hemp work well. I then use distilled water to spritz my hair on a daily basis for that added moisture, and since I don't have any oils or cones blocking out the water, my hair seems to respond well. Have you tried going without cones for a while just to see if it makes a difference for you? Have you tried clarifying any possible product build up?
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:22 PM   #3
 
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ITA with Onyx... I have dry, coarse 3c hair and clarifying and avoiding cones worked for me.

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Try some castor oil.It stays in my hair for days until I wash it which is once a week.Like I'm going on 8 days since I washed it and the castor oil is still in there.Give it a try.
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I agree with the no cones thing. If you are not sure what not to use, do what I did and look at what is suggested by others who say they are no cone users. I found that once I focused on getting my hair healthy over looking cute it improved. I found what works for both, health and cute.

Also I found that co washing, using both a moisturizing leave-in and moisturizing stylers help a whole lot.

I have 3c-4a hair and found that suave conditioner as co wash, giovanni 50/50 as leave in and curls whipped cream over that seems to work well for my hair. I can get 4-5 days out of it and it doesn't dry out at all. I hope you find what works.
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i have super dry hair. CG or no CG my hair is thirsty!
basically, i cater to my hairs needs. i use heavy rich conditioners, moisturizing shampoos, and oil. my hair sucks it up too! if you have to reapply products everyday and in large amounts, then go for it. it doesnt mean that your hair isnt responding to it, it just means you have hair thats like a sponge. products that have worked for my dry hair are:
-elucence mb conditioner. im in love with this stuff.
- jessicurl wdt (as a leave in). it really really quenches my dry hair.
-oil. any and all kinds, my hair loves.
-giovanni 50/50 as a co wash.

i always make sure i concentrate product on my ends and edges because they can get the driest the fastest. getting regular trims helps too.
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Hi Bekkapoo,

Is your hair coarse at all? I ask because my hair is very coarse - like wire or fine plastic thread, LOL. At any rate, oils seem to work initially for me and then they eventually seem like they are actually blocking out moisture on my hair. They seem to coat my hair and since water and oil don't mix the moisture I need from the water just seems to run right off my hair. That being said, what I have found is that water really is the only way to get the moisture I need. In my case, when it seems my hair is drying out, I clarify - I like to use redkin hair cleansing cream, and then I deep condition with a coneless conditioner - Jessicurl WDT or Oyin Honey Hemp work well. I then use distilled water to spritz my hair on a daily basis for that added moisture, and since I don't have any oils or cones blocking out the water, my hair seems to respond well. Have you tried going without cones for a while just to see if it makes a difference for you? Have you tried clarifying any possible product build up?
1. Coarseness: No actually my hair texture is thin (few hairs per sq. inch and thin strands).. I have a LOT of volume though, it's very fluffy. I can hardly see individual hairs when they break or come off in my comb, but when it is water- or condish washed and air dry it gives the impression that I have a lot of hair. When I condish-comb it in the shower I still lose lots of hair..

2. Actually no not yet, I'm currently "mod CG".. I guess I'm going to be on a new experimentation journey. Most of the condish's I have contain cones.. maybe that's my problem.


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ITA with Onyx... I have dry, coarse 3c hair and clarifying and avoiding cones worked for me.

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Okay that's two votes for "no cones"...

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Try some castor oil.It stays in my hair for days until I wash it which is once a week.Like I'm going on 8 days since I washed it and the castor oil is still in there.Give it a try.
My pomade (Blue Magic, see my fotki for pics) has castor oil in it.. but of course it has mineral oil much higher on the ingredient list.. the castor oil is somewhere in the middle.

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I agree with the no cones thing. If you are not sure what not to use, do what I did and look at what is suggested by others who say they are no cone users. I found that once I focused on getting my hair healthy over looking cute it improved. I found what works for both, health and cute.

Also I found that co washing, using both a moisturizing leave-in and moisturizing stylers help a whole lot.

I have 3c-4a hair and found that suave conditioner as co wash, giovanni 50/50 as leave in and curls whipped cream over that seems to work well for my hair. I can get 4-5 days out of it and it doesn't dry out at all. I hope you find what works.
Thank you.. that sounds like good advice. I was definitely going for "cute" lately, and thinking I was doing "healthy" but by the feel of things cute was winning, and healthy wasn't... Is Giovanni available at Sally's?

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i have super dry hair. CG or no CG my hair is thirsty!
basically, i cater to my hairs needs. i use heavy rich conditioners, moisturizing shampoos, and oil. my hair sucks it up too! if you have to reapply products everyday and in large amounts, then go for it. it doesnt mean that your hair isnt responding to it, it just means you have hair thats like a sponge. products that have worked for my dry hair are:
-elucence mb conditioner. im in love with this stuff.
- jessicurl wdt (as a leave in). it really really quenches my dry hair.
-oil. any and all kinds, my hair loves.
-giovanni 50/50 as a co wash.

i always make sure i concentrate product on my ends and edges because they can get the driest the fastest. getting regular trims helps too.
Thank you!! I actually have thin fluffy hair (texture wise) but it is SO thirsty... strange no? I'll buy the giovanni next time I am in Sally's - if that's where it's available..


Thank you to all the ladies for your advice! Ice cream with full flavor and no calories to you all..
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:51 AM   #8
 
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Smile Have you thought about trying mango butter?

When my hair drys out I use mango butter. I use it once a week and the other days I use refined coconut oil. It stays in my hair and all I have to do is spritz it with water the next day or two before I rinse and condition. Right now I'm using organic shampoo and conditoner. I find that using conditioners that have cones cause my hair to look dull and frizzy. Kiss My Face shampoo and conditoners really defined my curls and gave it a more clarification. Right now I'm using the Whenever but I'm going to try the Miss-Treated to see if its more moisturizing. I get my mango butter and coconut oil from www.MountainRoseHerbs.com
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Thank you!! I actually have thin fluffy hair (texture wise) but it is SO thirsty... strange no? I'll buy the giovanni next time I am in Sally's - if that's where it's available..

Thank you to all the ladies for your advice! Ice cream with full flavor and no calories to you all..
Nope, of the different hair types on my head, the fluffy hair is the thirstiest. It's never satisfied. It doesn't even seem to get wet under the shower stream. So, that's perfectly normal.
If you manage to find something to satisfy yours, share some with my hair
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Thank you!! I actually have thin fluffy hair (texture wise) but it is SO thirsty... strange no? I'll buy the giovanni next time I am in Sally's - if that's where it's available..

Thank you to all the ladies for your advice! Ice cream with full flavor and no calories to you all..
Nope, of the different hair types on my head, the fluffy hair is the thirstiest. It's never satisfied. It doesn't even seem to get wet under the shower stream. So, that's perfectly normal.
If you manage to find something to satisfy yours, share some with my hair
Well last night I washed my hair with a sulfate shampoo (Mane & Tail), then washed again with Creme of Nature, then applied the only CG conditioner I have which is V05 and detangled while still soaking wet. My hair felt better immediately.

So today that's what I'm using again.. V05 conditioner on wet hair, and a little bit of coconut oil to seal the ends. It feels okay today.. I hope it stays this way. I guess I will toss all my silicone laden products and get a few more bottles of V05.

Now if it turns out that that was all I needed all along I will be a little bit pissed at my hair for confusing me, and making me buy all these other useless products in the meantime!
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You should get something more moisturizing than VO5. That's probably not enough, especially with winter coming!
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You should get something more moisturizing than VO5. That's probably not enough, especially with winter coming!
What's "winter"?
I live in Florida.. I'll be at the beach on Xmas and New Years.

Is there a moisturizing V05 condish you could recommend though?
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Since you complained about dry, thirsty hair, it would seem that you would want to moisturize it more. My hair has improved drastically, since adding moisture and going with more natural products. Of course, I'm perfectionist and if my hair can be better--I want it to be the best it can be. You might also want to heed the advice some of these ladies gave you regarding moisturizing conditioners and other products, despite where you live.
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i agree with kathymack. there probably isnt a V05 conditioner that will do the trick. and i know my hair is just as dry now that i live in north carolina as it was when i lived in michigan.
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Thank you!! I actually have thin fluffy hair (texture wise) but it is SO thirsty... strange no? I'll buy the giovanni next time I am in Sally's - if that's where it's available..

Thank you to all the ladies for your advice! Ice cream with full flavor and no calories to you all..
Nope, of the different hair types on my head, the fluffy hair is the thirstiest. It's never satisfied. It doesn't even seem to get wet under the shower stream. So, that's perfectly normal.
If you manage to find something to satisfy yours, share some with my hair
Well last night I washed my hair with a sulfate shampoo (Mane & Tail), then washed again with Creme of Nature, then applied the only CG conditioner I have which is V05 and detangled while still soaking wet. My hair felt better immediately.

So today that's what I'm using again.. V05 conditioner on wet hair, and a little bit of coconut oil to seal the ends. It feels okay today.. I hope it stays this way. I guess I will toss all my silicone laden products and get a few more bottles of V05.

Now if it turns out that that was all I needed all along I will be a little bit pissed at my hair for confusing me, and making me buy all these other useless products in the meantime!
Like the other ladies said, any VO5 alone is too weak for thirsty hair. I tried to use some to detangle while co-washing, and it wasn't even moisturizing enough for that.
My hair doesn't want to even talk unless a conditioner is on the DEEP conditioner level. Right now Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose is temporarily quenching my hair, but I don't think it's good to let it dry in the hair. I did that once and I had tiny flakies. I'm searching and about to find a better leave-in.
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Like the other ladies said, any VO5 alone is too weak for thirsty hair. I tried to use some to detangle while co-washing, and it wasn't even moisturizing enough for that.
My hair doesn't want to even talk unless a conditioner is on the DEEP conditioner level. Right now Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose is temporarily quenching my hair, but I don't think it's good to let it dry in the hair. I did that once and I had tiny flakies. I'm searching and about to find a better leave-in.
Have you tried the KBB products. The nectar, milk, cream and butter are all very moisturizing.
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It seems that I am in for another trip to the BSS .. they already love me over there.

Okay.. so V05 is okay for the short-term til I get to the BSS. How about if I start using Flaxseed/Linseed gel as a leave in? Any comments?

I think it's time to go full on CG.. I'll review the product list on the site and see what I can get locally.
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Like the other ladies said, any VO5 alone is too weak for thirsty hair. I tried to use some to detangle while co-washing, and it wasn't even moisturizing enough for that.
My hair doesn't want to even talk unless a conditioner is on the DEEP conditioner level. Right now Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose is temporarily quenching my hair, but I don't think it's good to let it dry in the hair. I did that once and I had tiny flakies. I'm searching and about to find a better leave-in.
Have you tried the KBB products. The nectar, milk, cream and butter are all very moisturizing.
Nope not yet.. is this an online product or available in the BSS?
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Have you tried the KBB products. The nectar, milk, cream and butter are all very moisturizing.
I'm actually planning to make a trip to her store tomorrow, which is why I'm feeling confident I'm gonna solve my leave-in problem . The nectar and the cream sound like they're up my alley. I just have to get psyched up about the long train trip.

Oh and BekkaPoo, it's an online product unless you'll be visiting the NYC area some time soon.
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Have you tried the KBB products. The nectar, milk, cream and butter are all very moisturizing.
I'm actually planning to make a trip to her store tomorrow, which is why I'm feeling confident I'm gonna solve my leave-in problem . The nectar and the cream sound like they're up my alley. I just have to get psyched up about the long train trip.

Oh and BekkaPoo, it's an online product unless you'll be visiting the NYC area some time soon.
Thanks for the heads up! The next time I'll be in NYC won't be til sometime in 2009.

OT, where in NY do you live? I moved to Florida from Newburgh (Orange Co.), NY four years ago.. and SO glad I did.
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