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Old 03-10-2006, 07:05 PM   #21
 
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So then my question is this.

If this is only going on in the 3C forum, why is that? Are people so concerned about long, perfectly defined frizz free curls because *gasp* if the frizz shows, people might just consider it nappy? Since 3C is a made up category anyway and is right ON the border.

Hmm. Now I see why people say that 3C people made up the category just so their hair wouldn't be considered nappy. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't see how they could logically conclude that.
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Old 03-10-2006, 07:10 PM   #22
 
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So then my question is this.

If this is only going on in the 3C forum, why is that? Are people so concerned about long, perfectly defined frizz free curls because *gasp* if the frizz shows, people might just consider it nappy? Since 3C is a made up category anyway and is right ON the border.

Hmm. Now I see why people say that 3C people made up the category just so their hair wouldn't be considered nappy. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't see how they could logically conclude that.
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Old 03-10-2006, 07:43 PM   #23
 
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Everyone might be tired from the 50-page Vin thread. Do you think he's a 3c?
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Gabby, lots of posters will probably be paying attention to this thread, don't worry.
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I really don’t see this either. Many of my posts go unanswered on many of the boards. So either the topic is not broad enough or it was a busy/slow day and it was passed by.

For me, especially regarding new products, I look to see if the person posting has similar hair to me. Also, I look to see if the product is available locally and if the local product is very similar to a popular product that I have been longing to try, but is only available through mail order, I am all about trying the local similar product.

And sometimes, I just don’t post, but read a lot of the posts.
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What I notice:

When someone posts to say that they feel excluded by cliquishness, it's always the clique members who respond first to say 'Oh no, I don't see any of THAT kind of behavior around here! You must be mistaken.'

News flash! You're not seeing the exclusionary behavior because YOU ARE IN THE GROUP DOING IT. You CAN'T see it from the inside.

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Old 03-11-2006, 05:52 AM   #27
 
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When someone posts to say that they feel excluded by cliquishness, it's always the clique members who respond first to say 'Oh no, I don't see any of THAT kind of behavior around here! You must be mistaken.'

News flash! You're not seeing the exclusionary behavior because YOU ARE IN THE GROUP DOING IT. You CAN'T see it from the inside.

Duh.

Silly girl! I said the same thing as Curlybound and we're not in a clique. As a matter of fact, I just really "met" her yesterday, when she posted her pictures. And come to think of it, I realize she was the one who started that TAR thread on Wednesday (which I just watched yesterday--but I didn't want to bump the thread 'cause it's old news now ).

But anyway, I really haven't seen it because I just started hanging here last week, with a renewed interest in my hair. I feel bad that anyone feels excluded. Gabby should just spend most of her time on the non-hair board. It moves very fast and people are always "conversating" over there.
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I don't really post here a whole LOT, but even still, I don't think I really see CLIQUES, yanno? That makes me think of a group of people excluding someone else and I don't see anybody being EXCLUDED, per se.

But I do see people whose product recommendations are damn near law around these parts (i.e. Shyygirl) and these people should be on somebody's payroll! Usually, though, I think it's deserved: their product recs are the bomb! Shyygirl, at least, hasn't led me astray thus far. I can understand why people hop all over the stuff she recommends because her hair is beautiful and she's taking the time and money to try stuff. I'm not.

But like I said before, that's also indicative of people whose hair is right on the border line of "curly" and "nappy" and they want the best products to not make their hair look like what it really is. Experimentation is fine cause everybody does it and wants to know what their hair can look like. But after awhile...come on. Some people Ive seen around here need to give up the dream.
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Old 03-11-2006, 08:45 AM   #29
 
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But I do see people whose product recommendations are damn near law around these parts (i.e. Shyygirl) and these people should be on somebody's payroll! Usually, though, I think it's deserved: their product recs are the bomb! Shyygirl, at least, hasn't led me astray thus far.
That's what I was thinking. If people are upset because she gets alot of posts, they really should get over it. It's because the girl knows what she's talking about.

My question is, are yalls post out and out ignored or do you not get as many replies as you want? Because if you ask "Where can I buy Elucence?" and someone replies "Curlmart." or "BlahBlah BeautyStore.", I don't see the problem. You asked a question and it got answered.

I've never understood the "clique" thing either. (Maybe it's cause I'm one of the cool people :P ) When you're on the non-hair board, you get to "know" other posters because of all the topics that go on over there. So of course, you have "friends" that you "know" better than others. Is that what's meant?

My point is, if you're here to learn about your hair, then post whatever questions you have. If it gets answered within the first or second post, than that's okay; you learned what you needed to know. If your posts are being totally ignored, than that's a problem. I understand why you would be frustrated.

If you want 150 responses to "What are the ingredients of Shea butter?" just to feel special, that's a whole different issue.
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Gabby, I understand your post and I am sorry that makes you feel bad. There are cliques but that is a part of life and you should also realize that sometimes it is not what it seems. Some people post with aliases so what is really one person could appear as more. Try not to let it get to you. Other posters have acknowledged that they generally read your posts and witness what you described in the OP.

I was recently making a point about starting threads and making posts. Nothing should be done on the internet for attention whorism (AW), in my opinion. So until a couple of days ago, I didn't realize how important it is to some people that threads get lots of post. When I start a thread or make a post, it is because I wanted to say whatever it was. Many people read and appreciate comments and just don't post because they prefer to lurk and laugh at the rest of us who do post. Remember that the best audience is the one who appreciates/reads/learns and that is not necessarily synonymous with the audience who responds.
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What I notice:

When someone posts to say that they feel excluded by cliquishness, it's always the clique members who respond first to say 'Oh no, I don't see any of THAT kind of behavior around here! You must be mistaken.'

News flash! You're not seeing the exclusionary behavior because YOU ARE IN THE GROUP DOING IT. You CAN'T see it from the inside.

Duh.

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Why is 3c the funniest of the Andre boards? (yeah... I'm one of the occasional lurk and laugh folks)
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Hey Gabby... I haven't been hanging around here much lately, I just thought I would say hi. Don't let it bug you... some people are like that in IRL, and act the same here. I've always heard tales of clicks around here, but I'm too clueless to notice .

Thanks for the reply. I am trying not to let it bug me, but it does. This is supposed to be a place where people who have felt different all their life or just want to find a way to accept and manage their hair can come for advice and support. But what happens? If you don't have long, perfectly defined frizz free curls, you don't have anything to offer or your just totally ignored. Sorry I'm going off, but it gets irritating because I know I'm not alone.

Perfect example - even now this thread is being ignored Oh well, I was never big on fitting in anyway.
i agree with jazzi jenni...dont let it get you down. I definitely have benefitted from your advice/posts. I also loved your long hair discussion.
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I also think that it's important to distinguish between talking about "cliques" versus "familiarity." I understand what you're saying, but I also wonder if some posters get more responses because they RESPOND more than others. If someone always takes the time to offer input on my threads, I'm more likely to respond to theirs, because I've been building a cyber-friendship with them. I agree that some posters may seem to have more "status" than others, but i do think that a good part of it is earned by the effort they put into posting.
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But I do see people whose product recommendations are damn near law around these parts (i.e. Shyygirl) and these people should be on somebody's payroll! Usually, though, I think it's deserved: their product recs are the bomb! Shyygirl, at least, hasn't led me astray thus far.
That's what I was thinking. If people are upset because she gets alot of posts, they really should get over it. It's because the girl knows what she's talking about.
Yup, this is all on point re: SHYYGIRL, who provides a tremendous resource to her fellow curly head.

Also, Bianca, you have such a witty, creative way of expressing yourself - I am always cracking up at your posts



GABBY (and anyone else who feels ignored or dissed, on any board, including 3c)-

I definitely recall the early days when I started posting on NC and felt this way. I felt like there was some group of people who all seemed to know each other and have history and know so much more than me about curly hair and how would I ever get to a point where I would feel comfortable. And, several years and many (too many) posts later, I feel extremely comfortable here. I have learned a great deal from my fellow curlyhead and since I am hair obsessed and a HUGE PJ to boot, who loves words and expression, I like to give back by sharing whatever hair and product knowledge that I have accumulated with others.

Give it time. If you put in the effort, with sincerity, your time will come too.
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Why is 3c the funniest of the Andre boards? (yeah... I'm one of the occasional lurk and laugh folks)
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Because its such a cross-section of different types of people..
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Why is 3c the funniest of the Andre boards? (yeah... I'm one of the occasional lurk and laugh folks)
lol

Because its such a cross-section of different types of people..
I guess that 3C IS THE MELTING POT, huh? David Dinkins's gorgeous mosiac....................

Kisses and hugs to *Ani* Have a fun weekend - I am outta here very soon!
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Why is 3c the funniest of the Andre boards? (yeah... I'm one of the occasional lurk and laugh folks)
lol

Because its such a cross-section of different types of people..
I guess that 3C IS THE MELTING POT, huh? David Dinkins's gorgeous mosiac....................

Kisses and hugs to *Ani* Have a fun weekend - I am outta here very soon!
Kisses and hugs to you too....

I'm taking my little one to a sleepover party in a few hours. They sure grow up quickly.
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Kisses and hugs to you too....

I'm taking my little one to a sleepover party in a few hours. They sure grow up quickly.
Awwwwwwwwww, I LOVE CHILDREN, especially other people's kids They are too cute and sweet and honest, god bless their little souls. Have fun and enjoy!!
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I also think that it's important to distinguish between talking about "cliques" versus "familiarity." I understand what you're saying, but I also wonder if some posters get more responses because they RESPOND more than others. If someone always takes the time to offer input on my threads, I'm more likely to respond to theirs, because I've been building a cyber-friendship with them. I agree that some posters may seem to have more "status" than others, but i do think that a good part of it is earned by the effort they put into posting.
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