I need hair type please

Im trying to figure out what type my dd is she is going on 3 years old. Thank you for any help you have.



First, let me say that your daughter is such a cutie pie!

Um, as for her hair type, she could be a 3c or 4a. It looks like her hair has been brushed or combed out. My hair looks like hers if I comb my hair out and let it dry.

I think the best way to tell(though it really isn't important) is when you wash/condition her hair, detangle only when soaking with conditioner, and let her hair dry naturally wthout using a brush or styling products(leave in is fine). This is normally the only time you can tell what her natural pattern looks like without it being manipulated in some way.

Or, you could look at some of the pics of the curlies here. You can find links in their signatures(like mine), or click on the "WWW" link, if they have one. You may find someone that could be her hair twin, or close relative.

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First, let me say that your daughter is such a cutie pie!



when you wash/condition her hair, detangle only when soaking with conditioner, and let her hair dry naturally wthout using a brush or styling products(leave in is fine).

Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Yeah I It was up in braids so I took them out and used a Just for kids conditioner. Then I took the pictures. Should I not comb her hair just use my fingers? When you say detangle only when soaking with conditioner is that the conditioner soap. Im so new to this I want her hair to be healthy but I have no one here to show or tell me what to do.
First, let me say that your daughter is such a cutie pie!



when you wash/condition her hair, detangle only when soaking with conditioner, and let her hair dry naturally wthout using a brush or styling products(leave in is fine).

Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Yeah I It was up in braids so I took them out and used a Just for kids conditioner. Then I took the pictures. Should I not comb her hair just use my fingers? When you say detangle only when soaking with conditioner is that the conditioner soap. Im so new to this I want her hair to be healthy but I have no one here to show or tell me what to do.
Originally Posted by jadenallan
It's okay. We all have to start somewhere, and I hope the ladies here can help.

Some ladies use their fingers to detangle. I'm not one of them. I have too many different textures on my head and would have difficulty doing that.

When I say detangle only when her hair is soaking with conditioner, I mean that when you apply conditioner to her hair(after you shampoo), that is the only time that her hair should be combed(for the most part). Never when dry. Textured hair like hers(and in general) tends to be fragile and not as coarse as it may appear. Her hair is most likely fine, and the more friction, the more likely her hair can become damaged(from combing and brushing).

Also, when you detangle, use a wide-tooth, seamless comb if you don't already. Combs with smaller teeth are a no-no. Start from the bottom and work your way gently to the top. Detangling her hair in sections also helps make it easier. When I was younger, my mom used to use regular combs on my hair and I was in pain most of the time. She tried to be gentle, but the combs she used weren't appropriate for detangling my hair. Using the right comb makes a huge difference. Paddle brushes are also good for detangling.

What is your routine with her? What products do you use? What would you like to be able to do with her hair? I think the curlies here can offer more advice/tips if we know exactly what you need.

I hope I helped alittle.
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You did help Thank you

Right now I don't do much
She gets her hair washed every 3 days. Right now I use L'oreal kids It says its an extra gentel 2-in-1. Then when she gets out of the bath I comb her hair and put it in braids. I have tried a Just for kids conditionar cream and Lets Jam! shining and conditioning gel. I don't think they do a good job. I would like to be able to keep her hair down. Some days With out worring about it becoming a huge clump of tangled hair. I don't like her crying when I have to comb though it. I do use a wide mouth comb.
It is really dry so I know I need to do something.

I just order curlisto kids products to see how they work in her hair. Im up for anything. I just need to learn what to do. KWIM?
I'd go to the parents of curlies page and read the 5 page help thread as well as the post your updated routines here thread. You can see what some of us are doing with our kids that are the same age as your daughter and see what is working great and not so great. BTW I hing you have a 3c/4A on your hands. Bee yoo ti ful hair!!!!!!!!!
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I just bumped the thread vivasmom is talking about under the "parents of curlies" section. That thread should be very helpful.

I would ditch the Loreal 2-1. She needs a separate shampoo(gentle) and conditioner. I don't think she really needs to have her hair washed 3 times a week. That could be contributing to the dryness her hair is experiencing. Once a week I think is the most that she'd need her hair shampooed, unless she has an oily scalp. I recommend doing conditioner rinses in-between shampoos. This is basically applying conditioner to the hair like normal, massaging it into the hair and scalp. Leave it in for atleast 5 minutes to help release some of the tangles. Then section her her off, and begin detangling from the ends to her roots. I normally two-strand twist the section that has been detangled to prevent them from getting tangled again, and rinse the conditioner with the twists still in. Once the conditioner has been rinsed out, apply a good leave in to each section and whatever product you want to use and that's it.

Shampoo is mostly used to remove product buildup from the hair and scalp. Considering she's so young, I would think that she isn't using enough product that would warrant washing 3 times a week. If she needs her hair shampooed more than once a week, focus on the roots and not the ends of her hair.

Curly hair needs lots of moisture, so I suggest investing in a good conditioner chock full of humectants and emollients(ingredients that draw moisture to the hair and help condition it). A good conditioner makes a HUGE difference. You need one that will be helpful with detangling and maintains the moisture level of her hair. I HIGHLY recommend Elucence and Tigi Moisture Maniac. These two are excellent for conditioning and helping with detangling. Elucence is a regular rinse out conditioner as well as a leave in. Very multi-purpose, and can be purchased here at CURLmart. Moisture Maniac is a great alternative, but isn't used as a leave in, though some people use it in this capacity.

As for the cream, do you mean Just for Me? I looked at the ingredients, and I don't see anything particularly nourishing. A cream I'm having great results with is Curls Whipped Cream. It's thick and creamy, and helps define your curls, while providing a light hold and moisture. I think the kids version is called Curly Q's Curly Q Custard(also sold here in CURLmart). This cream may be good for her hair.

I know this is ALOT to take in, but once you narrow down what's good for her hair, things will be simpler.

Definitely check out Enrica's thread. She has alot of helpful info there. And feel free to pm me with any questions.

HTH
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I sent her my routine for Viva. Here it is for anyone else as well.

Routine Posted/Updated: 1/12/05Season (if applicable): Fall/Winter
Hair Type: 3c curls, fine texture, mid-back length when wet, nape of neck length when dry (in other words, MAJOR shrinkage)
Condition: Overall healthy, protein sensitive
Gender/Age: Girl, Age 3

Current products:
Tigi Moisture Maniac Conditioner
Elucense MBC
Curls Hair tea ecstasy
Curls Moist curls
ORS Lock n' Twist Gel
WAter mixed with glycerine and Tigi MM in a spray bottle
Lustrasilk Right on Curl Activator
Cream Of Nature Shampoo
Avocado Oil

CURRENT ROUTINE


PM
Hair generally gets wet in the bath everyday. I use a glob of Tigi Moisture Maniac condish (or Elucense MBC, I alternate the two, I think Tigi gives better slip on wet hair) , work it into hair that has had the water squeezed out of it, section the hair and comb through with a Mebco detangling comb, working from ends to roots. I do a quick dunk in tub to rinse, but I don't rinse until it is squeaky, I leave some in. Squeeze excess water from hair with hands. This takes about 5 minutes.

Then we go sit in front of the TV (gasp!) and I put about a Hershey's Kiss size dollop of either Moisture Maniac or Elucense MBC. or Curls Hair Tea into the hair, work it through and then section and comb again with the Mebco comb. Soetimes I will also work in some curl activator.
I try to either put it into french braids or regular braids, 2 or 4 of them. This whole process takes about 20 minutes. I'm just learning to french braid so I'm slow.

Then off to bed. We don't use a satin pillowcase or anything, half the time she chooses to sleep on the floor. No pillow or anything.

AM
I undo the braids,and add some avocado oil to my hands, smooth it through her hair and brush the canopy with a boar bristle brush and either make ponys or braids. This takes less than 5 minutes.

OR
I spray it damp with a spray bottle filled with water, conditioner and glycerine, spray it damp and smooth over the hair a dime plus size of the right on curl activator. Then style.

If she wants to wear her hair down, I have to re-wet it with a spray bottle mixed with conditioner, re-section and finger comb. I add ORS Lock n' Twist for curl definition. This takes about 10 minutes.

By the way, when she sleep with her hair "Out", my morning routine takes almost a 1/2 hour. Her hair gets matted and is a disaster in the morning. Also, if I let her wear her hair down multiple days in a row, it gets a lot harder to manage and detangle. She almost never wears her hair loose and free anymore. It's quite long.

Sorry for such a long post, I wanted to be very specific for you all!
Barely wavy mommy to a fine, silky with thready corkscrew 4 1/2yr old girl. HG's Moisture Maniac, PM The Conditioner, Cactus leave-in (original formula)"Mommy I want to look like a lion!" = hair loose and flowin'.
This is from Enrica's thread on oils:

NOTE: Check the Routine's thread HERE for latest info.


Her hair didn't seem to take well to plain oils at first, but I've tried a few now and here is what I found:

Extra Light Olive Oil - Even though this one is indeed less viscous the EVOO, it seems all are too heavy and just coat her hair. I even used it in a DT and the results were these matted, dry strands. It was the same reaction we get with Mineral Oil.

Coconut Oil Refined (unscented) or Extra Virgin (scented) - Nice as a overnight moisturizer; really softens the hair if it's rough. Good for the edges and crown where dryness really creeps up.

Jojoba Oil - By far the best. A few drops adds instant sheen and gloss that stays with the hair. Light enough for daily use.

Sweet Almond Oil - Very close to Jojoba in weight, goes on smooth and light, but provides an all over moist, shiny look to the hair.

Apricot Kernel Oil - Feels almost like water, though remarkably really shines on the hair. Leaves a little fruity smell, but evaporates fairly quickly. Use it as a finishing sheen.

Grapeseed Oil - Disappears the moment I put it on the hair. The lightest! Didn't do a thing, but may be a nice alternative if you find most of these oils too heavy for your hair type.
Barely wavy mommy to a fine, silky with thready corkscrew 4 1/2yr old girl. HG's Moisture Maniac, PM The Conditioner, Cactus leave-in (original formula)"Mommy I want to look like a lion!" = hair loose and flowin'.

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