Paddle Brush=Clumpier Curls

The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that.

There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.
Originally Posted by medussa
Wow!

Absolutely beautiful. Your curls definitely clump better and look much more defined compared to the other pics.

I guess I need to try brushing my hair with styling product now.
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Okay..silly question. I tried using the paddle brush(Paul Mitchell) today. I brushed after I applied Tooshea. I did not brush after applying product. I didnt really find that my curls clumped at all. Im realizing now that when I brushed.. I brushed with my head upside down. could this be the problem? Or maybe it is the Tooshea?
I can't answer your question, briccagirl, but I wanted to post my brush experience. I broke down and bought a brush, the Aveda styling brush. I got it because its teeth seemed a little wider than both the paddle brush and the denman 4. I'm pretty scared of brushing, so I went with my gut on that.

I used it this morning to detangle, with lots of OneC. How wondrous is feeling a brush on your scalp? It might be the thing I miss most about straight hair, brushing it out.

Anyway, that said, I did not notice it detangling any better than the wide-toothed comb. It did seem like a lot of hair came out, but I didn't feel any real pulling, so I think maybe that was hair that had shed. I don't know. However, there is a rough edge on the wood part which I'm POSITIVE is going to be trouble -- I didn't take it out of the box to check it, foolishly -- so I have to either sand that edge down some, or exchange the brush.

Anyway, I brushed again after I put my gel in. Honestly, my hair is looking exactly the same, the clumps turned out how they typically do.
I've tried brushing with styling product, and I didn't particularly like the results. I had very bushy/frizzy hair.

Works better for me when I'm just brushing conditioner in. I'll just stick to using it for detangling.
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The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that.

There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.
Originally Posted by medussa
Wow! Your hair looks perfect! Do you really mind the shrinkage when you get such bouncy, frizz-free curls? I'd take curls like that with shrinkage any day.

Curltopia suggested I try a paddle brush, and now Shyygirl's raving about it and your hair looks lovely with it too-- I guess I'll have to try!
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The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that.

There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.
Originally Posted by medussa
Wow! Your hair looks perfect! Do you really mind the shrinkage when you get such bouncy, frizz-free curls? I'd take curls like that with shrinkage any day.

Curltopia suggested I try a paddle brush, and now Shyygirl's raving about it and your hair looks lovely with it too-- I guess I'll have to try!
Originally Posted by urbancurl
Thanks! I haven't used the brush since my hair shrinage episode. For awhile, I was having problems with dryness and frizziness. I'm not sure what it was. But it's back to normal.

I posted a question to you on a thread (which, I cannot remember) about how you get such beautiful second day hair. How do you sleep on it? Do you apply anything in the morning?

Also, do you use OneC as a leave-in under KCCC?
OK, now that my hair is completely dried, it's very floofy. On the other hand, I did get a number of compliments on it.
...Thanks! I haven't used the brush since my hair shrinage episode. For awhile, I was having problems with dryness and frizziness. I'm not sure what it was. But it's back to normal.

I posted a question to you on a thread (which, I cannot remember) about how you get such beautiful second day hair. How do you sleep on it? Do you apply anything in the morning?

Also, do you use OneC as a leave-in under KCCC?
Originally Posted by medussa
So brushing is something you know you can fall back on when you want that look.

I'm sorry if I failed to your answer question on another thread! I tend to get nice 2nd day hair if I get a firm set with my 1st day hair. At night I put it in a pineapple, and I sleep on a cotton sateen pillowcase. If I'm lucky, I don't add a single thing to my hair on day 2. But other times, I will touch it up with a mixture of water and whatever I used the day before-- Re:coil or AO B-5 gel lately, or even just water and a little conditioner, only to the curls that have gotten frizzy.

I haven't actually used KCCC for a long time, and I can't remember if I ever used OC underneath. Probably, as I didn't like KCCC without conditioner underneath.
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Thanks Urbancurl. I adore your hair. I can't achieve results such as yours because my curls (coils? I don't know the terminology) are tighter.

I need to start experimenting with gel that gives me a stronger hold than AnGell, I guess, even though I *love* the stuff. I sleep on a satin pillowcase, with a pineapple. But when I let it down, my hair seems to want to stay up. It's like I need to pull it down. It's hard to describe. Maybe I'm piling it up too high on my head. It's almost at my front hairline.
Thanks Urbancurl. I adore your hair. I can't achieve results such as yours because my curls (coils? I don't know the terminology) are tighter.

I need to start experimenting with gel that gives me a stronger hold than AnGell, I guess, even though I *love* the stuff. I sleep on a satin pillowcase, with a pineapple. But when I let it down, my hair seems to want to stay up. It's like I need to pull it down. It's hard to describe. Maybe I'm piling it up too high on my head. It's almost at my front hairline.
Originally Posted by medussa
Thanks Medussa; I love your hair and wish I could achieve such uniform, vertical wavy curls like yours. But I think in your paddle brush pictures, we almost look like hair twins (except I have frizz!).

Yes, maybe a stronger gel would help you achieve 2nd day hair. Also, do you plop? I never used to but I've been experimenting with it and sometimes I end up with 3rd day hair!

About the pineapple, I don't put mine quite that high. And the sides of my hair do end up frizzy, but they are not visible once I let my hair down. It does give me more lift at the roots, but I like that.

Oops, we hijacked this thread!
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Wow, Medussa! Your hair is gorgeous!! Do those gels you use get hard at all or do you just scrunch out the hardness when it's 100% dry?

Thanks and keep on rockin those ringlets!
I just bought a paddle brush at the dollar store last night so I'm gonna try brushing my conditioner.
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I brushed again the other day. This time I used the Denman styler (I didn't see any number; but it has only 7 rows of very widely spaced teeth, fewer than the D4. The D4 is kinda scary, honestly). Anyway, this time I just brushed to detangle and applied the gel as I usually do, raking with my fingers.

Once again, the process of detangling felt wondrous. It did seem to pull out a lot of hair, though. It's a little worrisome. I didn't feel any hairs break, so maybe the brush just picks up more of the naturally shed hairs, but it definitely removes more than the wide-toothed comb does.

Anyway, the results are impossible to call. I had my hair tied down underneath a bandana and a hat all day.

I'm going to try it again, but all that hair spooks me.
I wouldn't worry about the extra hairs in the brush, St. Louis. I do think it's just more effective at getting out hairs that are dead anyway.

I'm really not sold on this brushing thing though, for other reasons. There was so much conditioner in the brush, and I like to leave a lot in my hair. My hair also felt like it had less water in it than when I don't brush. And then I applied products after that anyway, (with my hands) so that probably undid whatever the brushing did. My hair isn't dry yet, but if anything, it looks stringier than usual so far.

Mayyyybe I'll try brushing in my gel or cream, or brushing in my conditioner and not adding any product and see what happens. But serves me right for not getting good results-- using my fingers only has been working for years, why am I trying to change it?
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Urbancurl: your hair is absolutely gorgeous!! Are you all following the CG routine? I've been doing the no-poo thing for a long time now and I love plopping, just tried it today. My curls are really chunky and defined as a result. I just ordered my book, can't wait!

xoxo
First of all Medussa and Urban I looked at your hair and its just beautiful!

So I went out and got a paddle brush yesterday and used it after i showered. I detangled with my B.A.C (big ass comb) and applied my leave in and mousse. I then brushed with the paddle brush. I had the brush on one side and my hand on the other and man talk about clumps of curl! I let it air dry like usual and i have some very big defined curls. Its almost wierd. I had to turn my head upside down and give it a good shake to break up some of the curls while it was drying. I kept asking everyone if my hair was lookin crazy and they were like no its super curly what did you do? And my mother thought it was much more curly than usual and looked very nice. Who knew a brush could do that? I kept touchin the ends of it cause im not really sure what to think LOL I just had a LOT of hair cut off and so its shorter than usual and then to have it shrink up with bigger curls it was something to get used to! The bush I got at sally's and it was on clearance. Its pretty big and i think it might be a little too big and im not sure i liked the feel of it. I might try a differnt brand next time im at the store.

Precious Honey
Urbancurl: your hair is absolutely gorgeous!! Are you all following the CG routine? I've been doing the no-poo thing for a long time now and I love plopping, just tried it today. My curls are really chunky and defined as a result. I just ordered my book, can't wait!

xoxo
Originally Posted by Miss Dogla
Thanks Miss Dogla, and welcome to the boards!

I do a "modified" CG routine. I do shampoo with a cocobetaine cleanser once a week or so. I've been experiemnting with plopping lately and I love it too! Post some pictures of your hair if you get the chance!
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Thanks Precious Honey, and I'm glad you had good results with brushing!
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I had to try to brush my hair and I really like the result.The only problem is that it is quite flat on my scalp for some inches and than I get a lot of curls. Any idea of how to avoid those straight inches?

When I brush after having put my products I don't dare to plop because with plopping my hair stays up in place of going down (I don't know if it's clear) so with the bigger clumps (and shrinkage) I may have a "punk" look of curls going to the north in place of going south.

Any idea for me?
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I had to try to brush my hair and I really like the result.The only problem is that it is quite flat on my scalp for some inches and than I get a lot of curls. Any idea of how to avoid those straight inches?

When I brush after having put my products I don't dare to plop because with plopping my hair stays up in place of going down (I don't know if it's clear) so with the bigger clumps (and shrinkage) I may have a "punk" look of curls going to the north in place of going south.

Any idea for me?
Originally Posted by McCurly
I normally shake my hair to get rid of flat-head. Or put my hair up-side down to lightly shake and separate with my fingers. And with plopping, maybe you're plopping too long without enough product or tying your hair too tight. When I plop, I only leave it in for 5-10 minutes. Just enough to get rid of the drippies. Any longer and my hair will not look right. And I loosely pile my towel on my hair. If it's too tight, it will frizz and I lose some of my curl.

HTH
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