English/French braids?

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Do any of you do English or French braids (or any other of the non-Nigerian/cornrow braid styles) on your hair, and if so, how easily? My 3b/c hair is about 9 inches long when stretched, and the back kind of brushes my shoulders sometimes. I figured maybe I could make a small English braid with my back hair, but every time I try it ends up looking like a mess, even though I think I'm following the online instructions (and from friends) pretty thoroughly. Now I HAVE seen a very nice-looking English braid on a lady with thick 3c hair, but her hair was much longer than mine. For hair my length, do you think it's possible to do a clean-looking braid, or is it just a problem with my hairtype and the length? Is my hair just too short to be trying anything like this?

If any of you have pics from personal experience or people with a similar hairtype with such a braid too, I'd appreciate them.

Thanks!
I do dutch braids on 3c hair
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whoa, i didn't realize there were braid nationalities! can someone please post pics so i know what these european braids look like?
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http://public.fotki.com/natakue/
http://www.braidedimage.com/Dutch-braid-styles.html


Link

http://www.braidedimage.com/Short-ha...id-styles.html

here are her sugestions for short hair
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whoa, i didn't realize there were braid nationalities! can someone please post pics so i know what these european braids look like?
Originally Posted by Natakue
Interestingly enough, the French call what we call "french braids", "nattes africaines" or African braids.
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ooh, great pics vivasmom! i can't figure out how some of them are done, they look so fancy!
a crazy 4a/3c mix
o/s; thin; thready/cottony?
http://public.fotki.com/natakue/
http://www.braidedimage.com/Dutch-braid-styles.html


Link

http://www.braidedimage.com/Short-ha...id-styles.html

here are her sugestions for short hair
Originally Posted by vivasmom
Wow! My Grandma used to do my hair like the pic on the right in the 1st link. She called it under-braiding.
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http://www.braidedimage.com/Dutch-braid-styles.html


Link

http://www.braidedimage.com/Short-ha...id-styles.html

here are her sugestions for short hair
Originally Posted by vivasmom
Wow! My Grandma used to do my hair like the pic on the right in the 1st link. She called it under-braiding.
Originally Posted by Curlilocs
Mine too! I didn't know it had another name!!!
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That's the only way I know how to braid, what you guys call underbraiding. BTW I bought that lady's book, the author of the links, and her DVD, but I still suck at braiding. She make a point of mentioning on her site that she specializes in braiding caucasian hair. I went back and forth with her a bit via e-mail on this, but she's harmless, not the potentially scary hair-racist that I initially suspected. She just says that she doesn't do super curly hair.
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Thanks for the info and pics, guys. My problem was related to what braiders like that say about not doing super-curly hair, and my own experiences with trying it. But it's good to know you guys have done them before. Thanks again!
She make a point of mentioning on her site that she specializes in braiding caucasian hair. I went back and forth with her a bit via e-mail on this, but she's harmless, not the potentially scary hair-racist that I initially suspected. She just says that she doesn't do super curly hair.
Originally Posted by vivasmom
Did she say why, exactly? Isn't hair easier to braid the curlier it is? In my experience braiding on straight/loosely curled hair is the hardest, largely due to slippage and the fact that curlier hair usually holds braids better. I think this is why the cultures with the longest history of braiding tend to include a lot of curlyheads; it just tends to suit this this hair best.
she on the renaissance fair circuit, that is where she braids. So she almost exclusively braids straight silky hair and does not feel like she can call herself an expert in braiding other hair textures. Those braided styles are meant to last for a day or MAYBE two, whereas I think people who braid curlier hair textures expect the styles to last longer in the hair. My daughter has very fine 3c curls and her hair looks great in cornrows for at the most 2 days before it gets "fuzzy" looking. Less fine textures can last upwards of 6 weeks before looking fuzzy.
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it takes alot of practice to become a great braider! i think it may be more effective to use african american guides in learning how to braid your baby's hair. hair textures like hers arent as simple to manipulate as cornsilk textures. there are countless books/videos available that walk you through the steps of braiding afro textured hair. that way, you can expand her styles, and get alot more time out of them!

ITA w jeamaria!

i never knew there were european styles of braids. whenever i think of "braid," i get images of africa. learn something new everday
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i never knew there were european styles of braids. whenever i think of "braid," i get images of africa. learn something new everday
Originally Posted by jazzijenni81
I know at least in France, they call their style of braiding African braids (because that's where it originated) even though we in America call them "french braids"....

I imagine the same is probably true of so-called Dutch braids.
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