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Old 03-25-2006, 07:16 PM   #1
 
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Default the grass is always greener on the other side

i was at my sister's salon the yesterday...well i was there today too but thats not the point. anyway 2 girls were filling out applications for employment, one had a relaxer and the other one was natural (about 4b, styled in a fro hawk that was braided on the sides). so when i came in my sister (who also has a relaxer) introduced us. the rest of the conversation went a little something like this:

my sister: this is my sister, subbrock. shes natural too. see subb, i told you there were other naturals who came in here!
me: i didnt believe you but i guess youre right!
my sister: fro hawk girl said she goes to the natural hair website, is that the one you go to? or do you go to the curly one?
me: umm...ive been there before but i really just go to the curly one now.
my sister: why?
me: *trying my best not to offend fro hawk girl* umm, well...they can be not so nice sometimes. from what ive experienced i dont think curlies are really welcome to much over there...
fro hawk girl: uh-uh. we dont like y'all.
*sister and fro hawk girl start laughing*
me: see i told you!
my sister: why not?
fro hawk girl: they got it easy...
me: easy?!
fro hawk: yeah, your hair is easier to deal with. ours is alot harder. you dont have naps, so you dont know.

the moral of the story is: apparently our hair looks so good we've tricked the world into thinking that we wake up with beautiful luscious curls! and some of us do, but im not one of them. it just made me laugh thinking about how many threads there are about frizz, plopping, products, tools, cones, styles, etc etc etc. how frustrated we get and how much money we've all spent looking for the perfect products. so much so that this website had to be created! but it just goes to show you that the grass is always greener on the other side.
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Yes, it is true that the grass is usually greener on the other side. that she said that she didn't like "y'all".
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wow,

she can speak for herself!!!!
i'm a regular over there,
and i believe no such thing about curlies

no one has it "easy"
every hair type and every individual person
has their problems and annoyances
when it comes to their hair.

how ridiculous some are.

hooray for hair!
mine and yours.

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runrunrunner, I think you may be the exception (and i am sure that there are other people who think like you). However, I can say, from personal experience that this is the attitude of a lot of naturals. i notice it even here, from 1 very vocal, and rude person who continues to hate. It is quite unfortunate, but it is true. We all have beautiful hair! From wavy to kinky and everything in between.
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wow,

she can speak for herself!!!!
i'm a regular over there,
and i believe no such thing about curlies

no one has it "easy"
every hair type and every individual person
has their problems and annoyances
when it comes to their hair.

how ridiculous some are.

hooray for hair!
mine and yours.

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I agree.

I'm kind of disturbed by the way some of us supposed "3C's" (many of us with chemical assistance on the d/l) keep trying to separate ourselves from the rest of black hair types.

This hair typing nonsense is divisive and foolish.

btw., 3c, 4a, 4b, whatever it's still all curly hair.
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:24 AM   #6
 
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From what I know about nappturality (and similar black hair boards), the only andre natural hair type that is not represented there is type 1.

That said, I hope this thread gets to 20 pages discussing a mythical "them" vs "us".
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note: i didnt post this to start a "them" vs. "us" war, i just took it as a backhanded compliment. and i know ive been guilty of the grass is always greener syndrome too!
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note: i didnt post this to start a "them" vs. "us" war, i just took it as a backhanded compliment. and i know ive been guilty of the grass is always greener syndrome too!
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Is it referenced as natural site/curly site assuming that "curly-haired" women (I'm assuming black) are not naturally curly? The name of this site leads me to think that all of the women here are natural, with the exception of the ones who say they're using chemicals in search of a natural "look", whatever that is.

Primpin' ain't easy, regardless the texture or curl pattern. That's why I'm back to the ponypuff for the most part.
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Is it referenced as natural site/curly site assuming that "curly-haired" women (I'm assuming black) are not naturally curly? The name of this site leads me to think that all of the women here are natural, with the exception of the ones who say they're using chemicals in search of a natural "look", whatever that is.

Primpin' ain't easy, regardless the texture or curl pattern. That's why I'm back to the ponypuff for the most part.
dia, you are so cool. im going to have to use that in my sig line now....
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subbrock, I thought I was being clever. Turns out from a quick google search you can even get t-shirts that read that. If you buy one, be sure to add a pic to your fotki.
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hahaha, i told myself i would stop buying shirts that say things, but i may have to make an exception!
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Is it referenced as natural site/curly site assuming that "curly-haired" women (I'm assuming black) are not naturally curly? The name of this site leads me to think that all of the women here are natural, with the exception of the ones who say they're using chemicals in search of a natural "look", whatever that is.
I think this might be referred to as the curly site (i.e not natural site) because this site explictly supports relaxing, texturizing, etc (I don't know if you've scrolled through to see what other boards we now have), while theirs does not.
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Is it referenced as natural site/curly site assuming that "curly-haired" women (I'm assuming black) are not naturally curly? The name of this site leads me to think that all of the women here are natural, with the exception of the ones who say they're using chemicals in search of a natural "look", whatever that is.
I think this might be referred to as the curly site (i.e not natural site) because this site explictly supports relaxing, texturizing, etc (I don't know if you've scrolled through to see what other boards we now have), while theirs does not.
That's a good guess. There are no filters here for the chemical fire cream.
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subbrock, I thought I was being clever. Turns out from a quick google search you can even get t-shirts that read that. If you buy one, be sure to add a pic to your fotki.
I still want "TURN OR BURN" across my chest.
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Did someone say PRIMPIN'?
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haha i think my mom or my sister have that set!!!!
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What makes no sense is that if your hair is naturally curly. That is still natural. It doesn't make sense that people from the mindset of fro hawk would have a prejudice against curlies when curlies go through prejudice from straight heads. Its seems so hypocritical. You would think that she would be supportive to you also for going natural. Curlies are encouraged to straighten their hair just as much as fro hawk.( I hope this is not being interperted in the wrong way. I guess my point is that it upsets me that fro hawk is a person who you would think would be so proud of her hair and feel good about her hair and encourage others in their quest for naturally being whoever they are.) I hope this makes sense

I am a member of one of the other boards as well as this board and what I got from both boards is that however your hair is natural its beautiful. Unfortunatley, some women who want to say they don't buy into the good hair/bad hair stigma are still thinking that there kinky or coiley hair is bad. When its NOT its all beautiful! Curly, Kinky, Coily, Straight whatever. Women should encourage each other to be comfortable with themselves regardless of hair texture.

Its the stupid media and hollywood that puts these ridiculous ideas of beauty standards in our heads.

Oh, and by the way subbrock your hair is beautiful.. Sounds like fro hawk might have had some hateraid. Her hair is probably beautiful too. But she might still have some issues with her mindset.

Just some thoughts.
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What makes no sense is that if your hair is naturally curly. That is still natural. It doesn't make sense that people from the mindset of fro hawk would have a prejudice against curlies when curlies go through prejudice from straight heads. Its seems so hypocritical. You would think that she would be supportive to you also for going natural. Curlies are encouraged to straighten their hair just as much as fro hawk.( I hope this is not being interperted in the wrong way. I guess my point is that it upsets me that fro hawk is a person who you would think would be so proud of her hair and feel good about her hair and encourage others in their quest for naturally being whoever they are.) I hope this makes sense

I am a member of one of the other boards as well as this board and what I got from both boards is that however your hair is natural its beautiful. Unfortunatley, some women who want to say they don't buy into the good hair/bad hair stigma are still thinking that there kinky or coiley hair is bad. When its NOT its all beautiful! Curly, Kinky, Coily, Straight whatever. Women should encourage each other to be comfortable with themselves regardless of hair texture.

Its the stupid media and hollywood that puts these ridiculous ideas of beauty standards in our heads.

Oh, and by the way subbrock your hair is beautiful.. Sounds like fro hawk might have had some hateraid. Her hair is probably beautiful too. But she might still have some issues with her mindset.

Just some thoughts.
1st- thanks for the compliment!

2nd-i completely agree with what youve said and it made me think why there is sometimes a division between "curl hair" and "natural hair". i think alot of times people dont realize that alot of us curlies used to relax our hair. i know plenty of people who were shocked that i used to relax. theyve said things like "why would you ever relax your hair??? youve got "good hair"..." *i do not believe in good/bad hair for the record*

just my 2 cents...
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