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Originally Posted by KurleeEdna
I agree

I appreciate the diversity of experiences and I hope that we can all learn from each other no matter where we are from or how we identify -- and that includes hair types too lol.
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I'm Caribbean too! My mother is Dominican and my father is Puerto Rican.

My mothers family is mixed with African, Spanish, and French. Since there is a lot of tension between Dominicans and Haitians I've come to believe that French is a euphemism for Haitian which their mix is pretty similar to Dominicans except they are French and African.

My fathers family is all kinds of mixed up. My father is from Puerto Rico and his mother is African, Taino, and Spanish. My grandfather is also African, Taino and Spanish. My grandfathers side of the family has a more Taino/Spanish influence whereas my grandmother has a more African/Taino influence.

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[Also, why is it all black americas say they are part native!? Was there that much mixing, because every american on the internet, says they are mixed with it?
Originally Posted by lenax7
I think a lot of americans in general claim american indian roots in some form or fashion. In terms of black-indians, there were some tribes that had black slaves, and some tribes were fierce abolitionists. In both situations, there was a lot of mixing.
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Hee hee. I get asked so many versions of this question all of the time when what they really mean is, "what is your racial and ethnic background?" So to answer your real question, my mom is white of Dutch and possibly German descent, and my dad is black from who-knows-where.
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My dad is black with some european portuguese, my mom is black with some east indian, bith parents are from trinidad(caribbean island)




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Originally Posted by LeeMayhem
we're hair twins yay, ive never seen anyone with hair like mine

my mom is black and my dad is from mexico/spain
its a long story but for simplicity i call myself a blaxican.
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Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
german chocolate that is so cute.
im blaxican
i know some one is cuban and tejano she calls herself 'cutex"
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I always follow the rule with NA ancestory that unless you are involved in the tribe or at least know which one it is, it's probably not even worth including in a litany of what you are since it's probably less than 1/16th (unless of course there are extenuating circumstances like how your relatives passed). And I'm glad I was able to edumacate you. lol This trend of claiming NA heritage was especially bad during the 90's. Everybody and their momma was a descendant of a "Cherokee princess". And I believe there was an episode of Oprah where she exposed with DNA testing that the amount of black Americans with Native American ancestory were probably less than what many families believed. And I imagine the same holds true for other Americans.

Here's a funny blog written by a half NA guy about this trend:
http://stuffblackpeoplehate.com/2008/08/22/cherokees/
And I agree with his assesment of why it is happening. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that all Native Americans look alike. Sorry if that's how it sounded. BUT I don't think we can ignore that there is a general "look" of certain people. It would be hard to deny, for example, that most people of African descent have some curl to their hair. But this should by no means = ignoring that outliers exist (straight hair is very possible on "black" people) and that there are even wide variety among the majority (like how "curl" can be anything from 2A to 4B). And of course the media doesn't always show even this variety. There is always only one type shown to represent the majority of any culture:
I think most people have an inner vision when they hear:
Native American

African

Latino

European

Middle Eastern

Asian

But anybody who has traveled a bit knows that there is that this is nowhere near true. Many of the above phenotypes overlap. (Latinos, for example, can be of any descent and cover every phenotype possible, pure Africans come in many more colors and hair textures than just ebony and 4B, many Asians have curly hair and double eyelids, Middle Easterners are also very varied) I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no such thing as race. And even the phenotypes we associate with each culture are very flawed and have more room for variety than we give them. I'm passionate about this subject too.
Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper

i agree with the bolded...a lot of people are claiming to be something or another....but at the same time my mothers side of the family is very, very light to the point of passing(and some do) as a light skinned NA if not white (and i came out dark!)so i wouldn't put the NA/white mix past them. My mother isnt even "half black" , she is more like 1/3 but it is all that she claims becuase when she grew up it was all she could choose.
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Mom is from Haiti and Dad is from Dominican Republic.

My mom has 4a type hair. Not really sure since she relaxes it pretty often. I'm not really clear about my grandparents racial mix, but I will assume like most haitians they are mixed with African, Tanio and White. Grandmothers hair is 3b and my grandfather always had a very low hair cut so I'm not sure what type he would be.

My father has 3a type hair. My paternal grandfather was half dominican and half haitian. My paternal grandmother was Dominican, she had very Tanio features.

I'm a 3c and my brother is a 4a.

I love that everyone is so ethnically diverse. It makes the world so interesting.

BTW, I often refer to myself as a Haitan-a-minican. My friend who is half greek and half puerto rican refers to her self as a Greek-a-Rican. :-)

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Mom is from Haiti and Dad is from Dominican Republic.
Originally Posted by MelMal
OMG they crossed the island LMAOOO wow dominicans usually hate haitians because they remind them of everything they are and don't want to be...
Mom is from Haiti and Dad is from Dominican Republic.
Originally Posted by MelMal
OMG they crossed the island LMAOOO wow dominicans usually hate haitians because they remind them of everything they are and don't want to be...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~

So true! I think that's why my grandmother says that she has "French" in her... it's like really grandma?! French? I'm fine with being part Haitian... to me they are they same as Dominicans.

I used to date a Dominican who said that the "Haitians darkened our race..." 1st of all Dominicans aren't a race! So then I, knowing that I was going to annoy him, said "so you're admitting that you have Haitian in your blood?" He of course vehemently denied it... and got really mad. I can't stand contradictions, especially when they're ignorant. To me, Haitians and Dominicans fighting is like identical twins saying they're not related to each other. Granted there are differences, but there are more similarities....
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I'm a Louisiana Creole. Born and raised in New Orleans. My Mother is half European French, 2/3 Native American, 1/4 African American, and my Father is 3/4 African American, 1/4 Native American.
Mom is from Haiti and Dad is from Dominican Republic.
Originally Posted by MelMal
OMG they crossed the island LMAOOO wow dominicans usually hate haitians because they remind them of everything they are and don't want to be...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~

So true! I think that's why my grandmother says that she has "French" in her... it's like really grandma?! French? I'm fine with being part Haitian... to me they are they same as Dominicans.

I used to date a Dominican who said that the "Haitians darkened our race..." 1st of all Dominicans aren't a race! So then I, knowing that I was going to annoy him, said "so you're admitting that you have Haitian in your blood?" He of course vehemently denied it... and got really mad. I can't stand contradictions, especially when they're ignorant. To me, Haitians and Dominicans fighting is like identical twins saying they're not related to each other. Granted there are differences, but there are more similarities....
Originally Posted by canelabella
This whole Dominican Hatitan Hispanola topic is actually really interesting. I used to go to a school that was predominantly Haitian and Dominican and there were so many Hatitans who denied there background saying they were French and Dominican. Then the Dominicans who swore that they didnt have an ounce of Haitian blood in them, which I find hard to believe. I remember when one of my friends came to me and she was a Haitian and she said "You know you're really luck" and this was outta nowhere so I asked her to elaborate and explain what she meant then she told me how I'm lucky I know where I come from and she wishes she had my hair and looked like me. I was shocked and she told me how she wishes she were mixed/mulitracial and didnt have such "black people features" which I fing kind of insulting since I am half black and its a very sterotypical statement but I guess that means a broad round nose and plump lips etc etc. I thought this was so sad that she wasnt proud of where she came from and what she looked like and she wished that she looked different. I'm proud of where I come from and I'm proud of my heritage, my language, and my facial features. I was blessed with a "different" look if you may. A button nose, plump lips, and curly 3c hair, and I'm so far from perfect or pretty or whatever but this is how God created me and I think that everyone should be happy with how unique they are.
Anyway, I think people just really need to be proud of their ethnic background, you are who you are and you can change your skin color, facial features, and deny what you are but you cant change whats inside, you can change your DNA and you can change the people that came before you.

P.S Sorry that was so long I just really wanted to share my experience and my thought on this topic.
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Mom is from Haiti and Dad is from Dominican Republic.
Originally Posted by MelMal
OMG they crossed the island LMAOOO wow dominicans usually hate haitians because they remind them of everything they are and don't want to be...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~

So true! I think that's why my grandmother says that she has "French" in her... it's like really grandma?! French? I'm fine with being part Haitian... to me they are they same as Dominicans.

I used to date a Dominican who said that the "Haitians darkened our race..." 1st of all Dominicans aren't a race! So then I, knowing that I was going to annoy him, said "so you're admitting that you have Haitian in your blood?" He of course vehemently denied it... and got really mad. I can't stand contradictions, especially when they're ignorant. To me, Haitians and Dominicans fighting is like identical twins saying they're not related to each other. Granted there are differences, but there are more similarities....
Originally Posted by canelabella
aww thats sad
theyr both beautiful groups of people,
dominican kids are so cute
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OMG they crossed the island LMAOOO wow dominicans usually hate haitians because they remind them of everything they are and don't want to be...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~

So true! I think that's why my grandmother says that she has "French" in her... it's like really grandma?! French? I'm fine with being part Haitian... to me they are they same as Dominicans.

I used to date a Dominican who said that the "Haitians darkened our race..." 1st of all Dominicans aren't a race! So then I, knowing that I was going to annoy him, said "so you're admitting that you have Haitian in your blood?" He of course vehemently denied it... and got really mad. I can't stand contradictions, especially when they're ignorant. To me, Haitians and Dominicans fighting is like identical twins saying they're not related to each other. Granted there are differences, but there are more similarities....
Originally Posted by canelabella
aww thats sad
theyr both beautiful groups of people,
dominican kids are so cute
Originally Posted by squirrely_curly
So are Haitian kids...


So true! I think that's why my grandmother says that she has "French" in her... it's like really grandma?! French? I'm fine with being part Haitian... to me they are they same as Dominicans.

I used to date a Dominican who said that the "Haitians darkened our race..." 1st of all Dominicans aren't a race! So then I, knowing that I was going to annoy him, said "so you're admitting that you have Haitian in your blood?" He of course vehemently denied it... and got really mad. I can't stand contradictions, especially when they're ignorant. To me, Haitians and Dominicans fighting is like identical twins saying they're not related to each other. Granted there are differences, but there are more similarities....
Originally Posted by canelabella
aww thats sad
theyr both beautiful groups of people,
dominican kids are so cute
Originally Posted by squirrely_curly
So are Haitian kids...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~
correct me if im wrong but dont haitians and dominicans look alike
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aww thats sad
theyr both beautiful groups of people,
dominican kids are so cute
Originally Posted by squirrely_curly
So are Haitian kids...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~
correct me if im wrong but dont haitians and dominicans look alike
Originally Posted by squirrely_curly
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Dominican has a big percentage of mixed people and Haiti has more black people.....So I guess she is offended that you said that dominicans kids are cute because of that...Im not sure but I said this because of the other thread LOL.Anyway it is your choice to say who is cute.Dominican shares your background because your half spanish/mexican so I don't see a problem with embracing them more.
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My parents are from the caribbean and i"m mostly indian and carib with white and black.This is how I get my brown skin color...........I only call myself mixed and I don't have it in my sprit and in my bones to chose sides..........Case closed.
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So are Haitian kids...
Originally Posted by ~Curly~
correct me if im wrong but dont haitians and dominicans look alike
Originally Posted by squirrely_curly

~Curly~ From what I gathered she meant it as, "it's a shame that they behave/act/think that way since they are (in her opinion) cute." I don't think it was meant to offend Haitians or say that Haitian children aren't as cute, more just it's a shame... To give her credit, she did say that both countries have beautiful people...
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My parents are from the caribbean and i"m mostly indian and carib with white and black.This is how I get my brown skin color...........I only call myself mixed and I don't have it in my sprit and in my bones to chose sides..........Case closed.
Originally Posted by holly8

Amen! I feel that without each of my ancestors I would not be who I am today. So I embrace them all, even the ugly, I can't punish a whole group for one persons decisions.

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