Need help!

I am a newbie to this board who desperately needs some advice! I have thick 3C hair with some 4A in the crown. I used to wear my hair relaxed for about 26 years, then grew tired of the routine and decided that I needed to stop trying to get my hair to do what it was not meant to do; enter the big chop!

Ever since that time (about 5 years ago) I have been keeping my hair very short (about 1 1/2 inches on top and 1/2 inch in back and on the sides). I've recently let my hair grow and have about 6-8 inches now.

The problem is, I am having a very hard time finding the right products to use on my curls! I have heard a lot of posters on this board talk about various products, but I am on a very limited budget, and can't really afford to spend a lot on hair care. Also, where I live there are not a lot of stores where I can find products for my hair type. I can't afford salon/professional products and the more inexpensive products that I've been using don't seem to work for me. I'm getting so frustrated with finding something that works for my hair that I am very seriously considering getting a relaxer again (although I have this funny feeling that I will regret it!)

Any suggestions?
This is the most difficult part of going natural. Since you have a limited budget, I would suggest looking for cheaper products that might work first, like Cantu Shea Butter, which a lot of 3c/4a/4b women like. It is sold in wal-mart for about $5. I would also suggest trying the natural products that stores like wal-mart and blooms have recently started to sell. They are a decent price, and they do not contain the harsh ingredients that alot of the synthetic products have that curly heads should stay away from. If you can't find cheap products and you want to try more expensive ones, research hair boards before buying anything. Good reviews of a product does not necessarily mean it will work for you, but it is a good reference point. Also, if you can get samples of these products, that would be another plus. Most of all, you just have to experiment. It is very annoying as all of us can atest to, but it is very necessary if you want healthy hair. Good luck.
I only use drugstore brands.. the most expensive product I use is $9.99 (GVP Tea Tree Condish) from Sally's. Aussie Moist is $5-6. ORS Elastic-i-tea Leave in is about $5. Africa's Best Herbal Oil is about $2 at Family Dollar. As you can see you don't have to spend a lot. Expensive doesn't always equal better.
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My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)
I use Trader Joe's Nourish Spa ( about $3.99) mixed with honey and Evoo for co-wash and even for Deep treatments. For styling, I like ecostyler - depending on the size $2.99 to about $4 something. I also just did a review on Shae's Curly Pudding - it's a do it yourself combo that includes mixing IC Gel with some butters and oils. It's good stuff and relatively inexpensive. I think IC Gel is like $3 something for a big jar, and then the oils and butters might be a bit more, but it shouldn't be too bad.

I'm actually doing a giveaway of sorts because I mixed a big jar of it, so I was able to jar an additional 8 oz. All you have to do is register and leave a comment saying you're interested in the pudding. If you're the only one then the jar is yours. If there is more than one person interested then your name goes into a drawing, and I have hubby pull a name out of a hat on Friday. This is just a suggestion, but mixing your own is just as easy HTH
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I am a newbie to this board who desperately needs some advice! I have thick 3C hair with some 4A in the crown. I used to wear my hair relaxed for about 26 years, then grew tired of the routine and decided that I needed to stop trying to get my hair to do what it was not meant to do; enter the big chop!

Ever since that time (about 5 years ago) I have been keeping my hair very short (about 1 1/2 inches on top and 1/2 inch in back and on the sides). I've recently let my hair grow and have about 6-8 inches now.

The problem is, I am having a very hard time finding the right products to use on my curls! I have heard a lot of posters on this board talk about various products, but I am on a very limited budget, and can't really afford to spend a lot on hair care. Also, where I live there are not a lot of stores where I can find products for my hair type. I can't afford salon/professional products and the more inexpensive products that I've been using don't seem to work for me. I'm getting so frustrated with finding something that works for my hair that I am very seriously considering getting a relaxer again (although I have this funny feeling that I will regret it!)

Any suggestions?
Originally Posted by Surlycurly
Yes, Please go to your local dollar store and purchase one or more of these products:

Suave Naturals Conditioner, Alberto V05 Conditioner, or White Rain Conditioner.

I would recommend Suave Naturals for your hair type specifically though. If it's a little to heavy try the Alberto V05.

Remember though make sure the bottle says SUAVE NATURALS.. don't get what just says SUAVE.

Guess what ? All these Conditioners cost 1.00 or 99 cents. And for the Big bottles they are 1.79. Sometimes you can catch sales and they are 89 cents or 79 cents.

Other places these products are sold are: Walmart, Walgreens, Rite Aid, Eckerd, CVS, etc. And yes..even at these places these products are 1.99 or less.

A lot of 3c and 4a and 4b women do the CG (Curly Girl Method) and use these Conditioners because they are inexpensive, do not contain silicones or sulfate, and they REALLY work on our hair VERY well. Your hair will feel hydrate, soft, and your curls will pop!!


Please check out this website to find out what the CG (CURLY GIRL) method is all about if you don't already know, even if you do know it may be a good idea to look anyway because it explains in easy to read detail the ins and outs of being a CG: http://dormroomcurly.blogspot.com/20...ons-table.html

Tons of natural women of color use the method discussed in the above link. And we have some of thee prone to dryness and breakage hair around! And if it works for us.. YOU KNOW IT'S AWESOME! LOL! Especially, since we have some of the most fragile hair around, given many think we don't which is a misnomer.

I know a lot of 3c's and 4's like to use some sort of natural oil in their hair. Olive oil, Sweet Almond Oil, Tea Tree Oil are all great oils for these hair types.

Olive Oil as you know can be purchased at any Supermarket and is not that expensive. Sweet Almond Oil can be found at Rite Aid and sometimes so can Tea Tree Oil. It's a little pricey for the Sweet Almond Oil or Tea Tree. But what you can do is get a large bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil, a small container of the Sweet Almond or Tea Tree Oil. Take a small container of some sort and pour some Olive Oil in it and put a few drops of one of thee other oils in it. This way your oil will stretch. I recommend the Sweet Almond oil over the Tea Tree though to do this trick. Because of the wonderful smell of it. It makes the Olive Oil smell so good.

But the thing a lot of naturals that have 3c or type 4 hair rave about is SHEA BUTTER!!! I am NUTS over it. WHY ? It's a great moisturizer, leaves my hair soft as cotton, and defines my curls like no one's business. Now Shea Butter can be found at a Whole Foods Store..but since you don't have many options as far as stores.. this is thee one product you may want to invest. Best thing of all.. it's worth it. You can get some online at www.amazon.com, www.coastalscents.com or simply do a search online of raw shea butter. You can get some on amazon for as low as 4.75.

Now.. make sure you order from a place online and make sure it's REAL SHEA BUTTER. Don't try to get Shea Butter at a local store because it won't have it. It will have products that say it CONTAINS shea butter and frankly those products come with a lot of filler that isn't good for type 3c and type 4 hair.

Another thing is to find a good soft hair gel for yourself that doesn't contain silicones (meaning any word you see in the ingredient list with -cone, -xane, or -conol attatched to the end of the word.) Like if you see DIMETHICONE.. put it back. LOL! Well if you want to that is... I am anti-cone (especially and particularly for type 3c and type 4 hair... so you'll have to excuse me.. LOL!

I've found that with my type 3c hair.. I DO NOT need to invest in expensive products to make my hair look good UNLESS I just want to try something else, and I do on occassion. But for me, I just needed to find products that work well with my hair type and don't contain sulfates or silicones. And plenty of type 4's have told me the same about their hair.

So you do have inexpensive options to try BEFORE and if you decide to relax again. I hope this helps and best wishes with your hair no matter what you decide!
Ladies! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how happy I was to see that there are inexpensive options out there for my hair type!

I never realized I could use Suave or White Rain conditioner in my hair (guess I'm still stuck in the mindset of using what was labeled "African-American products"). I know that I can both find and afford all the products you ladies listed, and I will definitely be giving them a try before I go the way of the relaxer again! LOL
Ladies! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how happy I was to see that there are inexpensive options out there for my hair type!

I never realized I could use Suave or White Rain conditioner in my hair (guess I'm still stuck in the mindset of using what was labeled "African-American products"). I know that I can both find and afford all the products you ladies listed, and I will definitely be giving them a try before I go the way of the relaxer again! LOL
Originally Posted by Surlycurly
You are very welcome! Definitely try the Suave Naturals.. FIRST. If that's to heavy then try the Alberto V05. I personally do not use White Rain at all. I don't hate it, but to me it's not as good as the Suave Naturals or Alberto V05.
Ladies! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how happy I was to see that there are inexpensive options out there for my hair type!

I never realized I could use Suave or White Rain conditioner in my hair (guess I'm still stuck in the mindset of using what was labeled "African-American products"). I know that I can both find and afford all the products you ladies listed, and I will definitely be giving them a try before I go the way of the relaxer again! LOL
Originally Posted by Surlycurly
You are very welcome! Definitely try the Suave Naturals.. FIRST. If that's to heavy then try the Alberto V05. I personally do not use White Rain at all. I don't hate it, but to me it's not as good as the Suave Naturals or Alberto V05.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
Yeah I like the Suave naturals better too. V05 didn't do anything for me at all.
"The challenge is to be yourself in a world that is trying to make you like everybody else."
"...rationality is not necessary to sell things.."
My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)
Suave naturals is definitely a cheapie staple. VO5 never need much for my hair...just coated it
Aloe vera gel. You can get a big bottle from Wal-mart.
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But the thing a lot of naturals that have 3c or type 4 hair rave about is SHEA BUTTER!!! I am NUTS over it. WHY ? It's a great moisturizer, leaves my hair soft as cotton, and defines my curls like no one's business.

Now Shea Butter can be found at a Whole Foods Store..but since you don't have many options as far as stores.. this is thee one product you may want to invest. Best thing of all.. it's worth it. You can get some online at www.amazon.com, www.coastalscents.com or simply do a search online of raw shea butter. You can get some on amazon for as low as 4.75.

Now.. make sure you order from a place online and make sure it's REAL SHEA BUTTER. Don't try to get Shea Butter at a local store because it won't have it. It will have products that say it CONTAINS shea butter and frankly those products come with a lot of filler that isn't good for type 3c and type 4 hair.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
before buying online, you may want to check to see if your town has a natural foods/natural products store. these type of stores sell real shea butter....usually, it is a lot more expensive. personally, shea butter does nothing for my hair.

good luck!
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YUP!! Where I live there is a local vendor that sells real natural 100 percent hexane free unrefined shea butter at this huge flea market. His prices are SOOOOOOOOO reasonable. So it's always good to check locally because you could possible find a vendor or place that sells it right in your area.

So I get MOST of my Shea Butter from him but I like to get it online too if I see a good deal.. and I really wanted to try the NOW shea butter since I was getting their glycerin anyway. LOL!
I am a newbie to this board who desperately needs some advice! I have thick 3C hair with some 4A in the crown. I used to wear my hair relaxed for about 26 years, then grew tired of the routine and decided that I needed to stop trying to get my hair to do what it was not meant to do; enter the big chop!

Ever since that time (about 5 years ago) I have been keeping my hair very short (about 1 1/2 inches on top and 1/2 inch in back and on the sides). I've recently let my hair grow and have about 6-8 inches now.

The problem is, I am having a very hard time finding the right products to use on my curls! I have heard a lot of posters on this board talk about various products, but I am on a very limited budget, and can't really afford to spend a lot on hair care. Also, where I live there are not a lot of stores where I can find products for my hair type. I can't afford salon/professional products and the more inexpensive products that I've been using don't seem to work for me. I'm getting so frustrated with finding something that works for my hair that I am very seriously considering getting a relaxer again (although I have this funny feeling that I will regret it!)

Any suggestions?
Originally Posted by Surlycurly
Please don't relax again. I'm a 3C, 4A combo too. Some great inexpensive products: V05 conditioners for washing & detangling. Add castor oil to it for a deep treatment and also for a leave-in. Try Eco Styler gel for styler and you can usually find shea butter for a reasonable price if you want a butter. hth!

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