Breakage Split Ends Fairy Knots

Ok maybe I just want to vent a little but I could use some advice.

My hair is driving me crazy everywhere I look I see fairy knots or split ends and I assume breakage because my hair is a million different lengths (which makes it tremendously frustrating to give myself dusting trims)

I have been using henna for the last few months and I haven't really noticed a difference in the amount of breakage or split ends at all.

On the other hand when I have a fresh wash and go or a TnC my hair looks thick and healthy.

My question is should I just keep at it and dust my splits and knots as I see them or should I go get a real salon trim and start over (I really REALLY dont want to do that)

Also I've read good things about Aphogee 2-Step treatment do you think that would help?
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3B/3C Thick Wavy/Curly
Currently battling the damage from weekly flat ironing and permanent dye.
GOAL: BSL (when curly) All Natural Healthy Hair.
Co Wash: Trader Joe Tea Tree Conditioner (great stuff!)
DC: KBB Hair Mask, Yes to Carrots deep conditioner
Style: Flax seed gel with Aloe, Avocado oil
Treatments: BAQ Henna
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I hear you...my ends are a hot mess right now. They are SO tangly. I have lots of "fairy knots" and split ends - sometimes more than 1 on a strand. I was trying to dust, but it is out of control. It's been too long since I had a good trim.

I have an appt at a salon tomorrow to sort this out. I'm going to look at hair pics now because if she says that I need to take off a lot I could as well go for a new look.
go get a trim now. your hair will continue to break and split if you dont take care of the problem now. and then you (a) wont be able to retain any length (b) your hair could continue splitting and breaking further and further up (c) when you do finally get it trimmed, you'll have to have a major haircut to get rid of all the damage (d) all of the above. it seems counterintuitive to cut your hair when youre trying to grow it out, but alot of times it has to be done.

for the past few months ive been seeing little hairs that look like breakage, but i really didnt want to get a trim because im growing my hair back out. i finally sucked it up and took care of my raggedy ends, and yes im sad that i lost a tiny but of length but i know its the only way i can actually retain some length! and if i wouldnt have been so stubborn and gotten a trim when i first knew i needed one months ago, i probably wouldnt have had to get so much taken off this time.

get to know your hair and what it needs to stay healthy and stop breakage (regular protein treatments & trims are 2 things that my hair needs that i have seriously neglected doing this year).
Ok maybe I just want to vent a little but I could use some advice.

My hair is driving me crazy everywhere I look I see fairy knots or split ends and I assume breakage because my hair is a million different lengths (which makes it tremendously frustrating to give myself dusting trims)

I have been using henna for the last few months and I haven't really noticed a difference in the amount of breakage or split ends at all.

On the other hand when I have a fresh wash and go or a TnC my hair looks thick and healthy.

My question is should I just keep at it and dust my splits and knots as I see them or should I go get a real salon trim and start over (I really REALLY dont want to do that)

Also I've read good things about Aphogee 2-Step treatment do you think that would help?
Originally Posted by Curlie Girlie
I like the Aphogee 2 step, I just did one last night..I try to do it every 6 weeks. It does help with shedding.

As far as going to a salon to get it trimmed I'd wait if I were you..it seems most beauticians are just too SCISSOR HAPPY these days lol! ..As long as youre wearing it natural without flat ironing it shouldn't look bad.
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go get a trim now. your hair will continue to break and split if you dont take care of the problem now. and then you (a) wont be able to retain any length (b) your hair could continue splitting and breaking further and further up (c) when you do finally get it trimmed, you'll have to have a major haircut to get rid of all the damage (d) all of the above. .
Originally Posted by subbrock
100% co-sign! Don't be afraid to trim your ends! Once you feel those little knots it's time to get rid of those ends! Your hair will thank u later!
I get my ends trimmed about every 10 weeks. My HD takes off 1/4" usually. Sometimes 1/2" if I want a better trim. Definitely helps with the fairy knots and my ends. They drive me crazy!
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I like the Aphogee 2 step, I just did one last night..I try to do it every 6 weeks. It does help with shedding.

As far as going to a salon to get it trimmed I'd wait if I were you..it seems most beauticians are just too SCISSOR HAPPY these days lol! ..As long as youre wearing it natural without flat ironing it shouldn't look bad.
Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy

that kind of thinking jacks up alot of us naturals. since most of us cant see split ends and fairy knots while wearing our hair out, (unless we're specifically looking for them) we think, oh my hair is fine! when in all actuality, its literally hanging on by a thread. then when a stylists cuts all the damaged hair that we've been holding onto for dear life, we want to get an attitude and blame them.

I like the Aphogee 2 step, I just did one last night..I try to do it every 6 weeks. It does help with shedding.

As far as going to a salon to get it trimmed I'd wait if I were you..it seems most beauticians are just too SCISSOR HAPPY these days lol! ..As long as youre wearing it natural without flat ironing it shouldn't look bad.
Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy

that kind of thinking jacks up alot of us naturals. since most of us cant see split ends and fairy knots while wearing our hair out, (unless we're specifically looking for them) we think, oh my hair is fine! when in all actuality, its literally hanging on by a thread. then when a stylists cuts all the damaged hair that we've been holding onto for dear life, we want to get an attitude and blame them.
Originally Posted by subbrock
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I like the Aphogee 2 step, I just did one last night..I try to do it every 6 weeks. It does help with shedding.

As far as going to a salon to get it trimmed I'd wait if I were you..it seems most beauticians are just too SCISSOR HAPPY these days lol! ..As long as youre wearing it natural without flat ironing it shouldn't look bad.
Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy

that kind of thinking jacks up alot of us naturals. since most of us cant see split ends and fairy knots while wearing our hair out, (unless we're specifically looking for them) we tbyy hink,sh oh my hair is fine! when in all actuality, its literally hanging on by a thread. then when a stylists cuts all the damaged hair that we've been holding onto for dear life, we want to get an attitude and blame them.
Originally Posted by subbrock
Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy

"As long as you're wearing it natural without flat ironing it shouldn't look bad"...What I meant by that was "keeping heat out of it"
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Ok maybe I just want to vent a little but I could use some advice.

My hair is driving me crazy everywhere I look I see fairy knots or split ends and I assume breakage because my hair is a million different lengths (which makes it tremendously frustrating to give myself dusting trims)

I have been using henna for the last few months and I haven't really noticed a difference in the amount of breakage or split ends at all.

On the other hand when I have a fresh wash and go or a TnC my hair looks thick and healthy.

My question is should I just keep at it and dust my splits and knots as I see them or should I go get a real salon trim and start over (I really REALLY dont want to do that)

Also I've read good things about Aphogee 2-Step treatment do you think that would help?
Originally Posted by Curlie Girlie
BTW ..I just took a peek @ your fotki & your curls are beautiful!!!
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Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy
that smiley made me laugh! i dont know if it was supposed to be funny/lighthearted, but i certainly got a good chuckle out of it!
This is a toughy (btw I loved the banter in this thread). I've had breakage got a trim and till had breakage. I've had fairy knots cut them and still had fairy knots. Now I'm cured (I hope for good).
For the breakage I think it was a combo of my hair having a moment, my fine fine strands, and this was solved by henna (keep it up for atleast a month or 2). and a light protein conditioner. The fairy knots came months later NOt enough moisture! (irony). I know have a light protein con I use 2 twice a month and super moisture con.
So I guess you could start with a trim but keep in mind it may not solve our problems!
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This is a toughy (btw I loved the banter in this thread). I've had breakage got a trim and till had breakage. I've had fairy knots cut them and still had fairy knots. Now I'm cured (I hope for good).
For the breakage I think it was a combo of my hair having a moment, my fine fine strands, and this was solved by henna (keep it up for atleast a month or 2). and a light protein conditioner. The fairy knots came months later NOt enough moisture! (irony). I know have a light protein con I use 2 twice a month and super moisture con.
So I guess you could start with a trim but keep in mind it may not solve our problems!
Originally Posted by Kiffany

i can relate to this because i have fine hair too. im one of those folks who can not go with out trims but the addition of protein to my hair care regime has helped tremendously! i use a pretty protein heavy conditioner on a daily basis and still do protein treatments once a month. but ive heard (and experienced) that using products with protein along with hennaing your hair will usually result in dry brittle hair. henna acts like protein and too much can be a bad thing for your hair.
Thanks for the advice ladies! I decided my best bet would be to go ahead and start fresh with a super trim so I can have a clean slate and see what really works well with my hair. I haven't had a trim in soooo long who knows how bad it really is back there.
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3B/3C Thick Wavy/Curly
Currently battling the damage from weekly flat ironing and permanent dye.
GOAL: BSL (when curly) All Natural Healthy Hair.
Co Wash: Trader Joe Tea Tree Conditioner (great stuff!)
DC: KBB Hair Mask, Yes to Carrots deep conditioner
Style: Flax seed gel with Aloe, Avocado oil
Treatments: BAQ Henna
FOKI


Ok maybe I just want to vent a little but I could use some advice.

My hair is driving me crazy everywhere I look I see fairy knots or split ends and I assume breakage because my hair is a million different lengths (which makes it tremendously frustrating to give myself dusting trims)

I have been using henna for the last few months and I haven't really noticed a difference in the amount of breakage or split ends at all.

On the other hand when I have a fresh wash and go or a TnC my hair looks thick and healthy.

My question is should I just keep at it and dust my splits and knots as I see them or should I go get a real salon trim and start over (I really REALLY dont want to do that)

Also I've read good things about Aphogee 2-Step treatment do you think that would help?
Originally Posted by Curlie Girlie
BTW ..I just took a peek @ your fotki & your curls are beautiful!!!
Originally Posted by VersaceCrazy
Thanks!
____________________________________
3B/3C Thick Wavy/Curly
Currently battling the damage from weekly flat ironing and permanent dye.
GOAL: BSL (when curly) All Natural Healthy Hair.
Co Wash: Trader Joe Tea Tree Conditioner (great stuff!)
DC: KBB Hair Mask, Yes to Carrots deep conditioner
Style: Flax seed gel with Aloe, Avocado oil
Treatments: BAQ Henna
FOKI


This is a toughy (btw I loved the banter in this thread). I've had breakage got a trim and till had breakage. I've had fairy knots cut them and still had fairy knots. Now I'm cured (I hope for good).
For the breakage I think it was a combo of my hair having a moment, my fine fine strands, and this was solved by henna (keep it up for atleast a month or 2). and a light protein conditioner. The fairy knots came months later NOt enough moisture! (irony). I know have a light protein con I use 2 twice a month and super moisture con.
So I guess you could start with a trim but keep in mind it may not solve our problems!
Originally Posted by Kiffany
I noticed when I used to use leave in then gel then coconut oil everyday for my wash and go's I would never really get fairy knots. I really think since I have been only using conditioner as a leave in (for about the last 6 months) my hair has missed the extra moisture. I have been adding castor oil or coconut oil to my hair recently and it feels much better but I still have the left over splits and knots to deal with.
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3B/3C Thick Wavy/Curly
Currently battling the damage from weekly flat ironing and permanent dye.
GOAL: BSL (when curly) All Natural Healthy Hair.
Co Wash: Trader Joe Tea Tree Conditioner (great stuff!)
DC: KBB Hair Mask, Yes to Carrots deep conditioner
Style: Flax seed gel with Aloe, Avocado oil
Treatments: BAQ Henna
FOKI


So..I went ahead and had a trim. They didn't take off a whole lot. I estimate I lost about half an inch in length and the shape was evened out so it looks a lot better. The difference in my ends is amazing. I mean, on some strands I had more than 1 fairy knot, which just proves my suspicion that knots cause more knots. Best to get rid of them and avoid further damage! When hair gets popped off when combing through knots, splits form (at least for me). I am going to be better at using a pair of sharp hair scissors to snip out stubborn knots rather than try to rip through them with the comb.
Hey Chica!

I co-sign. You must trim. When I was dealing with excessive splits, breakage, and knots (from misuse of the Solia), I trimmed bit by bit over the course of two years. It was less painful for me that way, lol. Going to see a professional is always an option--especially if you wear your hair straight often. I never wear my hair straight, and I'm sure if I pressed it out today, it would be terribly uneven. But even still, my hair is healthy and mostly breakage free
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The fairy knots are really annoying. I kept getting tons of them so I went to get a serious trim I took off about 1 1/2. I notice also that I only get them on the strands that frame my face. I'm an avid wash and goer so I'm thinking all the curl manipulation, shaking, fluffing and days without detangling is what caused this. I'm going to start getting my hair trimmed every 6 weeks to see if I can get rid of them entirely. I also have a habit of going to long without Deep conditioning. SMH.
I noticed when I used to use leave in then gel then coconut oil everyday for my wash and go's I would never really get fairy knots.
Originally Posted by Curlie Girlie
You might be onto something here! Isn't coconut oil essentially a protein? It may have been strengthening your hair, thus minimizing the number of fairy knots and split ends.

I have fine hair as well so I'm in the same boat as a lot of the commenters. I have a BUNCH of fairy knots and my Devachan stylist friend has told me a number of times that I'm due for a trim. My last one was May 2008.

ETA: Curlie Girlie - our hair is SO similar! You're probably the closest to a hair twin I've ever seen.


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