Disappointing results

I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
I like the Elucence MBC much better as a rinse out. Curl Junkie Hibiscus & Banana Honey Leave-in (fine) is fabulous as a leave-in for me. Use it under everything. I reviewed in Curlproducts. There's also a rich version. I just sold my Oyin sample pack as the S&D or Greg Juice did nothing for my hair either, and I don't like the smell
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I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
Originally Posted by keeta18
How many times have you used the Elucence? I know that alot of curlies at first aren't impressed. I know you said you tried it several times, but I would try it again. There are times when Elucence hasn't worked for me, and there were a few reasons why; I needed a trim really badly(no amount of conditioner will work until the damaged ends are removed); I needed to actually shampoo my hair to remove minor buildup(even the slighted of buildup can affect how well Elucence workes sometimes); or I needed to balance the PH levels of my hair by doing a ACV rinse. Also, sometimes when you do DT's and then use Elucence, it doesn't appear to do anything. This happened to a former curly from this site. I recommeded that she try it trying it again, and it worked for her. She just needed to give her hair time to recoup from the DT.

I can't really comment on the Oyin Shine and Define, though I've heard great things about them. Hopefully both of these products will eventually work better for you. Just experiment alittle more. If not, I'm sure someone will take them off your hands on the swap board.
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I like the Elucence MBC much better as a rinse out. Curl Junkie Hibiscus & Banana Honey Leave-in (fine) is fabulous as a leave-in for me. Use it under everything. I reviewed in Curlproducts. There's also a rich version. I just sold my Oyin sample pack as the S&D or Greg Juice did nothing for my hair either, and I don't like the smell
Originally Posted by Karenmc3
yes i agree, the Oyin smell is just too strong and not really that pleasant. I am going to order the curl junkie since it is in stock again. I just hope something works for me.
I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
Originally Posted by keeta18
How many times have you used the Elucence? I know that alot of curlies at first aren't impressed. I know you said you tried it several times, but I would try it again. There are times when Elucence hasn't worked for me, and there were a few reasons why; I needed a trim really badly(no amount of conditioner will work until the damaged ends are removed); I needed to actually shampoo my hair to remove minor buildup(even the slighted of buildup can affect how well Elucence workes sometimes); or I needed to balance the PH levels of my hair by doing a ACV rinse. Also, sometimes when you do DT's and then use Elucence, it doesn't appear to do anything. This happened to a former curly from this site. I recommeded that she try it trying it again, and it worked for her. She just needed to give her hair time to recoup from the DT.

I can't really comment on the Oyin Shine and Define, though I've heard great things about them. Hopefully both of these products will eventually work better for you. Just experiment alittle more. If not, I'm sure someone will take them off your hands on the swap board.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723

I understand what you are saying. I used the elucence like 5 times now.I just recently got a trim, so I do not think that is the problem. I think I just need something heavier, I want my hair to be a little weighed down. Do you know of any real heavy conditioners. I want my hair to look the way it looks when its wet, and thats hard to do. Im just tired of wasting my money.
May I recommend Smooth 'n Shine curl activator gel, then? It's only $2 and just a little gives me that wet look all day long.
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You can try adding a little honey to your conditioner for a super softening treatment and I also agree that Smooth N Shine is a good choice.
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You can try adding a little honey to your conditioner for a super softening treatment and I also agree that Smooth N Shine is a good choice.
Originally Posted by BelleCoily
Thanx but I hate to sound so pessimistic but I have tried the Smooth and Shine and I disliked it and also I stopped using the honey because I have blond highlights and it was changing the color and I was not feeling that.But thanks anyway.
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I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
Originally Posted by keeta18
How many times have you used the Elucence? I know that alot of curlies at first aren't impressed. I know you said you tried it several times, but I would try it again. There are times when Elucence hasn't worked for me, and there were a few reasons why; I needed a trim really badly(no amount of conditioner will work until the damaged ends are removed); I needed to actually shampoo my hair to remove minor buildup(even the slighted of buildup can affect how well Elucence workes sometimes); or I needed to balance the PH levels of my hair by doing a ACV rinse. Also, sometimes when you do DT's and then use Elucence, it doesn't appear to do anything. This happened to a former curly from this site. I recommeded that she try it trying it again, and it worked for her. She just needed to give her hair time to recoup from the DT.

I can't really comment on the Oyin Shine and Define, though I've heard great things about them. Hopefully both of these products will eventually work better for you. Just experiment alittle more. If not, I'm sure someone will take them off your hands on the swap board.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Good news, I tried it again this morning and now it is completely dry. I like the results, my hair is soft and shiny. I kind of have that wet look but not like a jheri curl. I guess I did have to give it some time. Although, I am sure there is something out there better, I have to say I am very pleased. So thanx everyone for the advice.
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I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
Originally Posted by keeta18
How many times have you used the Elucence? I know that alot of curlies at first aren't impressed. I know you said you tried it several times, but I would try it again. There are times when Elucence hasn't worked for me, and there were a few reasons why; I needed a trim really badly(no amount of conditioner will work until the damaged ends are removed); I needed to actually shampoo my hair to remove minor buildup(even the slighted of buildup can affect how well Elucence workes sometimes); or I needed to balance the PH levels of my hair by doing a ACV rinse. Also, sometimes when you do DT's and then use Elucence, it doesn't appear to do anything. This happened to a former curly from this site. I recommeded that she try it trying it again, and it worked for her. She just needed to give her hair time to recoup from the DT.

I can't really comment on the Oyin Shine and Define, though I've heard great things about them. Hopefully both of these products will eventually work better for you. Just experiment alittle more. If not, I'm sure someone will take them off your hands on the swap board.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723

I understand what you are saying. I used the elucence like 5 times now.I just recently got a trim, so I do not think that is the problem. I think I just need something heavier, I want my hair to be a little weighed down. Do you know of any real heavy conditioners. I want my hair to look the way it looks when its wet, and thats hard to do. Im just tired of wasting my money.

Good news, I tried it again this morning and now it is completely dry. I like the results, my hair is soft and shiny. I kind of have that wet look but not like a jheri curl. I guess I did have to give it some time. Although, I am sure there is something out there better, I have to say I am very pleased. So thanx everyone for the advice.
Originally Posted by keeta18
I'm glad to hear that it's working for you know. I understand when you want something to give you certain results and it kinda falls short of expectations. It can be frustrating and expensive. But the best way to prevent that is to have realistic expectations. I've found that no product will really make my hair look the way it does wet, even when slathering on certain products. Your hair will only do what it wants to do. The best thing is to focus on making the hair healthier, as opposed to making it look the opposite of what it's capable of doing naturally.

Oh, and another conditioner that has weight that's good is Tigi Moisture Maniac. It's similar to Elucence but alittle heavier and easier to get ahold of.
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I like Let's Jam Shining and Condition gel regular hold though I add water to it because it's a little thick. It moisturizes and gives curl definition. Today, I tried it with Curls Milkshake and African six oil then dried it with a hair dryer using a diffuser. My hair feels great! I think the next I'll use a little less Curls Milkshake though.
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I like Let's Jam Shining and Condition gel regular hold though I add water to it because it's a little thick. It moisturizes and gives curl definition. Today, I tried it with Curls Milkshake and African six oil then dried it with a hair dryer using a diffuser. My hair feels great! I think the next I'll use a little less Curls Milkshake though.
Originally Posted by frizzbegone
I love Let's Jam gel, it is one of my favorites, I used to use it all the time, I think I will start using it again.
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I purchased the Oyin Shine and Define and the Elucence Balance Moisturizing Conditioner and have used it several times as a rinse out and a leave in but i really dont see any major results. My hair is still very dry, especially in the middle and my hair is still big anf frizzy. i really wanted a product that would weigh my hair down and one that would be very moisturizing. Also, the Oyin Shine and Define is nothing special to me. My hair was not shiny or defined; what a waste of my ten bucks.
Originally Posted by keeta18
How many times have you used the Elucence? I know that alot of curlies at first aren't impressed. I know you said you tried it several times, but I would try it again. There are times when Elucence hasn't worked for me, and there were a few reasons why; I needed a trim really badly(no amount of conditioner will work until the damaged ends are removed); I needed to actually shampoo my hair to remove minor buildup(even the slighted of buildup can affect how well Elucence workes sometimes); or I needed to balance the PH levels of my hair by doing a ACV rinse. Also, sometimes when you do DT's and then use Elucence, it doesn't appear to do anything. This happened to a former curly from this site. I recommeded that she try it trying it again, and it worked for her. She just needed to give her hair time to recoup from the DT.

I can't really comment on the Oyin Shine and Define, though I've heard great things about them. Hopefully both of these products will eventually work better for you. Just experiment alittle more. If not, I'm sure someone will take them off your hands on the swap board.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723

I understand what you are saying. I used the elucence like 5 times now.I just recently got a trim, so I do not think that is the problem. I think I just need something heavier, I want my hair to be a little weighed down. Do you know of any real heavy conditioners. I want my hair to look the way it looks when its wet, and thats hard to do. Im just tired of wasting my money.

Good news, I tried it again this morning and now it is completely dry. I like the results, my hair is soft and shiny. I kind of have that wet look but not like a jheri curl. I guess I did have to give it some time. Although, I am sure there is something out there better, I have to say I am very pleased. So thanx everyone for the advice.
Originally Posted by keeta18
I'm glad to hear that it's working for you know. I understand when you want something to give you certain results and it kinda falls short of expectations. It can be frustrating and expensive. But the best way to prevent that is to have realistic expectations. I've found that no product will really make my hair look the way it does wet, even when slathering on certain products. Your hair will only do what it wants to do. The best thing is to focus on making the hair healthier, as opposed to making it look the opposite of what it's capable of doing naturally.

Oh, and another conditioner that has weight that's good is Tigi Moisture Maniac. It's similar to Elucence but alittle heavier and easier to get ahold of.
Originally Posted by shyygirl723
Thanx for the advice, i feel what you are saying.
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You can also do a deep treatment with olive oil and castor oil by themselves or added to your fave conditioner...

Sorry you didn't like the honey!

I was just trying to think of an inexpensive option with the activator, but You can also try that kinky curly curling custard... Or
Qhemet biologics Honey Hairbush Soft Tea Tree Gel
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You can also do a deep treatment with olive oil and castor oil by themselves or added to your fave conditioner...

Sorry you didn't like the honey!

I was just trying to think of an inexpensive option with the activator, but You can also try that kinky curly curling custard... Or
Qhemet biologics Honey Hairbush Soft Tea Tree Gel
Originally Posted by BelleCoily
Oh no, its okay, I appreciate your advice. I was thinking about kinky curly curling custard, is that really good?
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People really like it a lot, my neighbor included. And nearly every one on the boards with tight,dry curls or coils.

I make most of my own concoctions at home, but I'm just a
cheapie at heart though

But, if you love it, let me know, maybe I'll break down and splurge.
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