I looked on sweetpeacurli's website and it stated that all that I mentioned that were in my conditioner were not water soluble. And I found Cetrimonium Chloride in many of the products I was looking at in the store today. According to the list there are only a few that are water soluble(and don't dry out the hair). These are the ones that were listed as water soluble:

Dimethicone Copolyol
Hydrolized wheat protein /Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane
Lauryl methicone copolyol


However there was a couple that were sparingly soluble:

Behenoy Dimethicone
Stearoxy Dimethicone

Check out sweetpeacurli's website she's a real gem!

P.S. I decided to junk the oil serum stuff I had that was loaded with cones and well I thought I would see how it did in hot water. I poured some into hot running water in my bathroom sink and (mind you this was scalding water) well it stayed on top of the water like an oil sludge. Got me thinking "why do we put THAT in our hair!?"
Originally Posted by marinacurlz
I was all over (or so I thought) sweetpeacali's site, and i couldn't find the part you mentioned about cetrimonium chloride. If you could link that specific part, I greatly appreciate it so we can better address the ingredient issue. I've only been here about a year, but this is the first i've heard of it being a cone.

You may be confusing cetrimonium chloride with Cetearyl methicone and
Cetyl Dimethicone. Those two cones are not water soluble.

Cetrimonium chloride isn't a cone at all. Technically it's a quaternary ammonium salt. You will probably commonly find it because it is useful for detangling and helps to make a formula rich.

If your products list cones that are PEG modified, then they will be water soluble as well. Dimethicone alone isn't water soluble, but PEG-8 dimethicone, for example, is water soluble. It's such craziness.

IIRC trideceth-12 is an emulsifier and stabilizer - which helps to bind water loving and oil loving ingredients in a conditioner.

Some cones are not water soluble, but can be removed by gentler cleansing agents such as cocobetaine, which tends to less harsh than sulfates.

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