Best definition from a non gel product?

any recommendations? please do not mention anything that has an aloe vera base either.and fairly cheap as well!( less than $10.) i cant find anything cbss and ohm are just too expensive and i cannot locate shea moisture smoothie. i have to wait until i go back to school and go to the target there which has it in stock. i have a trip im going to and i need a creamy styler
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Last edited by Napp; 07-26-2010 at 08:22 PM.
Shoot, I was just about to mention coconut oil and aloe vera gel. I tried it today for the first time and had wicked curl definition.
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^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
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^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
Originally Posted by Napp
she said she was just about to mention it. meaning that was her 1st thought but since your preference was no gel, she reconsidered her thought but still typed it.

geesh! you won't get much help with an attitude. maybe a search will yield better results that fit your parameters.
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faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice

Last edited by hippychic; 07-27-2010 at 06:49 AM.
^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
Originally Posted by Napp
she said she was just about to mention it. meaning that was her 1st thought but since your preference was no gel, she reconsidered her thought but still typed it.

geesh! you won't get much help with an attitude. maybe a search will yield better results that fit your parameters.
Originally Posted by hippychic

Should I fetch my stool and some popcorn?


Okay sorry, that was immature.

Maybe you could try shea butter/jojoba oil combo?
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^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
Originally Posted by Napp
Ay girl, chill. Read what she said before you snap on her like that. People wanna help even though you got all these stipulations but that little funky attitude gotta go.

How can you snap on somebody wit a cupcake as they avatar? that's like talkin sh*t to a Care Bear... You don't do that, sweetie.
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LOL@ talking ish to a Carebear


that is tooo cute * Care bears shareeeeeeeeeeeee *
Haha, aww, thanks everyone. Also, btw, Napp, other people will be reading this thread too. So that's why I mentioned my new combo because some people who like aloe and coconut oil will be reading this too.

I have a very hard time getting curl definition or getting my definition to last all day.

One technique I've found that helps a lot is scrunching during all steps of doing my hair. Scrunch my hair when it's wet, scrunch in my conditioner, scrunch out my conditioner, scrunch my hair dry, scrunch in my leave-in, scrunch in my other products...
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Last edited by nana_banana; 07-27-2010 at 09:52 AM. Reason: added more info
I think Napp owes someone an apology...pure aloe vera gel isn't even considered an actual "gel."

Anyway, the only non-gel products I know that make my curlies/coils spring are more than $10 (besides aloe vera gel...but I guess that won't help).

You could always try Teri's Tightly Curly method though - using a denman and conditioner, then smoothing each curl.
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what? i didnt "snap" at anyone. truly it is difficult to dicern tone over the net. perhaps i should have added a few "lols" and a smiley to not seem rude.


i was just wondering why!? i mean maybe if i didnt put it in the title i would just assume she was answering to the title but i did...i dont see the problem in asking. i just wanted to know HER reasoning. not someone elses speculation.

btw a search is hard do do with what im looking for because everyone seems to recommend something with the natural hairboard "cure alls" aloe vera and shea butter
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what? i didnt "snap" at anyone. truly it is difficult to dicern tone over the net. perhaps i should have added a few "lols" and a smiley to not seem rude.


i was just wondering why!? i mean maybe if i didnt put it in the title i would just assume she was answering to the title but i did...i dont see the problem in asking. i just wanted to know HER reasoning. not someone elses speculation.

btw a search is hard do do with what im looking for because everyone seems to recommend something with the natural hairboard "cure alls" aloe vera and shea butter
Originally Posted by Napp
Actually...if you go to the product reviews section of the site you can search by attribute, and one of them is definition. That might be helpful too.
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what? i didnt "snap" at anyone. truly it is difficult to dicern tone over the net. perhaps i should have added a few "lols" and a smiley to not seem rude.


i was just wondering why!? i mean maybe if i didnt put it in the title i would just assume she was answering to the title but i did...i dont see the problem in asking. i just wanted to know HER reasoning. not someone elses speculation.

btw a search is hard do do with what im looking for because everyone seems to recommend something with the natural hairboard "cure alls" aloe vera and shea butter
Originally Posted by Napp
^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
Originally Posted by Napp
Seemed a little snappy to me. But if it was just a misunderstood tone, then I understand. I'm always misunderstood.
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Originally Posted by subbrock View Post
- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
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For the record, I personally didn't take too much offense to it.
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For the record, I personally didn't take too much offense to it.
Originally Posted by nana_banana
I did. Snappin on somebody with a sparkly cupcake in their avatar just seems so wrong to me...
Quote:
Originally Posted by subbrock View Post
- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
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Hate me? Love me? then Follow me! www.twitter.com/vidastarr


Hehehe .
Hair type: Mostly 3C, medium porosity to high porosity depending on the day, dense, fluffy, dry, tangly!



^^that combo would be horrible on my hair. i find aloe vera to be drying to my hair no matter what i use. even straight from the plant.coconut oil is just oily

and no offense but why mention the combo when i specifically asked for non gel recommendations?
Originally Posted by Napp
Ay girl, chill. Read what she said before you snap on her like that. People wanna help even though you got all these stipulations but that little funky attitude gotta go.

How can you snap on somebody wit a cupcake as they avatar? that's like talkin sh*t to a Care Bear... You don't do that, sweetie.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
Hehehe...aww that made my night


Anyway...my recommendation is to use a 'curl activator' [[long aid is amazing...but is a gel,sorry ]]

the only non-gel ones i can think of is like S-Curl stuff...hm...i would do a search, this seems like a common question

LOL...you all are making me smile, and after the day I had, thats quite an accomplishment (LOVE the sparkly cupcake!)...anyway...have you tried any of the curl junkie products? I like the CCCC, but I need something with hold over it (**shhh...gel?**). CIAB is cool too...I am kinda new to the CG method, but I find as I continue the deep condish's, the better shape my hair is in, the more defined it gets. HTH
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The only thing I found that gave me good definition for under $10 is Flax Seed Gel. Just boil up some seeds and it makes a good gel. Not strong hold by itself, but if you add honey or agave it's makes a difference. It's also conditioning and leaves the hair feeling smooth if you add some oils. You find flax seeds at a health store like Whole Foods.

Mango Butter gives good hold so maybe you can whip up a Mango cream.

With your limitations I'm afraid you may have to spend some money to ship certain ingredients to you to make your own unless you live in a big diverse city like NYC or D.C. where it might be more readily available on the ground.
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