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im a male with crazy fluffy, dry, itchy, poofy 4b hair.. i dont hate my hair as much as i hate how i cant make it look nice.. iv tried so many times to grow it out and make it look appealing but i fail, get mad and then cut it then regret cutting it and i have been doing this cycle for years now haha until i found this site.. im about 3/4 months into and about to go into the cutting stage.. i want my hair to have more "seperate" curl look.. not so fluffy.. right noow its a poof ball with no definition.. im looking for ANY ideas, home remedys or anything for my curls to seperate into defined curls and drop and not go straight up and poof out.. and without a wet look to if thats possible... this picture was about 10 years ago when i grew an afro and its a good example of what my hair turns into.
ThankYa! cody
1. If your hair is dry you need to moisturize more often and/or use a less abrasive shampoo. Browse around for threads on "co-washing"

2. If your scalp itches, try massaging it with an oil (olive or coconut)

3. For poofiness and definition try Kinky Curly or Jessicurl
oooo ty! if it wasnt 1am here id be off with a fat list of theses great things iv learned about on this site! cheers for the help.. time to get rid of this poof!
Your hair needs moisture moisture and more moisture!
Look into the Qhemet Biologics, Curls.biz, and Kinky-Curly lines for products.
3b/2b/3c mix
~no heat, sulfates, silicones, mineral oil or petrolatum~
CURLS, My Honey Child , KCKT, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic, & Elasta QP Feels Like Silk
Yeah I agree your hair probably needs moisture. You definitely wan to "co-wash" that is washing with conditioner. Some of my favorite conditioners to co-wash with are:

Suave naturals Tropical Coconut
Tresemme Naturals Silicone-Free Conditioner
Aussie Moist Conditioner
Trader Joe's Nourish Spa

These are also good as leave-in conditioners and detanglers. Meaning that it is easy to comb through your hair with these conditioners in your hair.

Another thing you want to look at is what ingredients are in your products. Silicones (those usually the words that end with "cone") and products with mineral oil/petroleum/parrafin liquidum tend to be drying to the hair because they block moisture.

For the itchy scalp, I recommend rubbing warm olive oil on your scalp. I can tell you that has really helped me.

The only product that has really ever given me definition is KinkyCurly Curling Custard. It's a bit pricey and too much of the product on your hair can make your hair hard. There are Gel Curling activators that some ppl like for their hair such as Long Aid Activator Gel and Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel.

I would also try deep treatments. You can buy them in the store. Shea Moisture has a deep treatment for $9.99 and it's available at some Target stores.

One of my favorite Deep treatments is pretty simple to make and do.
Just get 1 tbs of honey and 2 tbs of coconut oil (or olive oil) put it in a sandwich bag and warm it up in a cup of hot water. On clean, wet hair (I do the deep treatment right after I have washed my hair), you take the warm honey and oil and squeeze it all over your head. Massage it through your hair. Leave it on your hair for about 15 to 30 minutes (Use a shower cap if you plan to do things around the house during this time to minimize dripping).
After time is up just rinse it out and style as usual.

The other part about hair is that the internal is just as important. That means you might wanna increase your water intake if you aren't drinking AT LEAST 8 to 10 glasses of water a day. I noticed a big difference in my skin and hair when I started drinking more water. I think I got that info from another blog and it helped a lot. Another thing is to make sure you are eating a lot of green veggies and taking your vitamins. This also increases the health of your hair.

I hope this info helps and good luck. Feel free to post questions and ask for help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by subbrock View Post
- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
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Yeah I agree your hair probably needs moisture. You definitely wan to "co-wash" that is washing with conditioner. Some of my favorite conditioners to co-wash with are:

Suave naturals Tropical Coconut
Tresemme Naturals Silicone-Free Conditioner
Aussie Moist Conditioner
Trader Joe's Nourish Spa

These are also good as leave-in conditioners and detanglers. Meaning that it is easy to comb through your hair with these conditioners in your hair.

Another thing you want to look at is what ingredients are in your products. Silicones (those usually the words that end with "cone") and products with mineral oil/petroleum/parrafin liquidum tend to be drying to the hair because they block moisture.

For the itchy scalp, I recommend rubbing warm olive oil on your scalp. I can tell you that has really helped me.

The only product that has really ever given me definition is KinkyCurly Curling Custard. It's a bit pricey and too much of the product on your hair can make your hair hard. There are Gel Curling activators that some ppl like for their hair such as Long Aid Activator Gel and Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel.

I would also try deep treatments. You can buy them in the store. Shea Moisture has a deep treatment for $9.99 and it's available at some Target stores.

One of my favorite Deep treatments is pretty simple to make and do.
Just get 1 tbs of honey and 2 tbs of coconut oil (or olive oil) put it in a sandwich bag and warm it up in a cup of hot water. On clean, wet hair (I do the deep treatment right after I have washed my hair), you take the warm honey and oil and squeeze it all over your head. Massage it through your hair. Leave it on your hair for about 15 to 30 minutes (Use a shower cap if you plan to do things around the house during this time to minimize dripping).
After time is up just rinse it out and style as usual.

The other part about hair is that the internal is just as important. That means you might wanna increase your water intake if you aren't drinking AT LEAST 8 to 10 glasses of water a day. I noticed a big difference in my skin and hair when I started drinking more water. I think I got that info from another blog and it helped a lot. Another thing is to make sure you are eating a lot of green veggies and taking your vitamins. This also increases the health of your hair.

I hope this info helps and good luck. Feel free to post questions and ask for help.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
Yo Cali, when did you get nice?

Anywho, BP, she gave you a LOT of awesome tips - EVOO and honey is my favorite deep treatment and if your hair is dry I recommend trying to deep condition 3x a week until it's back on track. You can also use tea tree oil for itchy scalp.

Aloe Vera gel is also an awesome moisturizer that can help separate your curls some. It's also soothing to the scalp. You can get 99% AV from Trader Joe's (It's like $3) or 100% from Fruit of the Earth, which is usually at Rite Aid or the grocery store.

Shea butter and mango butter also help seal moisture into the hair - if you don't want a "wet" look I recommend using a butter or moisturizer with these ingredients. My mango butter is from Nubian Heritage (http://www.iherb.com/Nubian-Heritage...4-g/16716?at=0) and my Izzy (my fro) just loves it.

Hope that helps!
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I agree with the posters above. Moisture is key! I'm dealing with this sorta too, and it sux and makes me wanna just cut it all off, but i'm trying to grow my hair out, and i would look funny with a buzz cut. Lol. But yes, mosturize. That's all i can tell you... :/ sorry.

4a/OS/FN/Spongy
Co-Wash: Vo5 Herbal Escapes Moisturizing Conditioner Free Me Freesia With Aloe Extract & Aussie Moist
Leave In Conditioner: KCKT & seal with shea butter.
Gel/Styler: KCCC or EcoStyler for edges.
I think my hair likes cones...
Curly hair loves moisture so feed it what it wants and it will be happy. Another natural option is flaxseed gel. Great moisturizer, lightweight and you can make it at home.
Over 10 years natural and still growing...
*secretly bookmarks all these products for when 30 days of no product buying is up*
Random thought BP: Tea Tree Oil is great for your scalp but is an essential oil so it can cause irritation. Try mixing it with olive, jojoba or coconut (or any carrier oil) oil, and massage it onto your scalp. The tingling and the scent are divine! I also mix a little tea tree oil into my (sulfate free) shampoo - makes my scalp so happy!
4a/3c curls
Fine strands, not as densely-placed as I would like
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Yeah I agree your hair probably needs moisture. You definitely wan to "co-wash" that is washing with conditioner. Some of my favorite conditioners to co-wash with are:

Suave naturals Tropical Coconut
Tresemme Naturals Silicone-Free Conditioner
Aussie Moist Conditioner
Trader Joe's Nourish Spa

These are also good as leave-in conditioners and detanglers. Meaning that it is easy to comb through your hair with these conditioners in your hair.

Another thing you want to look at is what ingredients are in your products. Silicones (those usually the words that end with "cone") and products with mineral oil/petroleum/parrafin liquidum tend to be drying to the hair because they block moisture.

For the itchy scalp, I recommend rubbing warm olive oil on your scalp. I can tell you that has really helped me.

The only product that has really ever given me definition is KinkyCurly Curling Custard. It's a bit pricey and too much of the product on your hair can make your hair hard. There are Gel Curling activators that some ppl like for their hair such as Long Aid Activator Gel and Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel.

I would also try deep treatments. You can buy them in the store. Shea Moisture has a deep treatment for $9.99 and it's available at some Target stores.

One of my favorite Deep treatments is pretty simple to make and do.
Just get 1 tbs of honey and 2 tbs of coconut oil (or olive oil) put it in a sandwich bag and warm it up in a cup of hot water. On clean, wet hair (I do the deep treatment right after I have washed my hair), you take the warm honey and oil and squeeze it all over your head. Massage it through your hair. Leave it on your hair for about 15 to 30 minutes (Use a shower cap if you plan to do things around the house during this time to minimize dripping).
After time is up just rinse it out and style as usual.

The other part about hair is that the internal is just as important. That means you might wanna increase your water intake if you aren't drinking AT LEAST 8 to 10 glasses of water a day. I noticed a big difference in my skin and hair when I started drinking more water. I think I got that info from another blog and it helped a lot. Another thing is to make sure you are eating a lot of green veggies and taking your vitamins. This also increases the health of your hair.

I hope this info helps and good luck. Feel free to post questions and ask for help.
Originally Posted by Cali Chik
Yo Cali, when did you get nice?
Originally Posted by ellepixie
You trippin I'm a regular bundle of sunshine!
Quote:
Originally Posted by subbrock View Post
- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
www.lifestarbeauty.com
Hate me? Love me? then Follow me! www.twitter.com/vidastarr



Yo Cali, when did you get nice?

Anywho, BP, she gave you a LOT of awesome tips - EVOO and honey is my favorite deep treatment and if your hair is dry I recommend trying to deep condition 3x a week until it's back on track. You can also use tea tree oil for itchy scalp.

Aloe Vera gel is also an awesome moisturizer that can help separate your curls some. It's also soothing to the scalp. You can get 99% AV from Trader Joe's (It's like $3) or 100% from Fruit of the Earth, which is usually at Rite Aid or the grocery store.

Shea butter and mango butter also help seal moisture into the hair - if you don't want a "wet" look I recommend using a butter or moisturizer with these ingredients. My mango butter is from Nubian Heritage (http://www.iherb.com/Nubian-Heritage...4-g/16716?at=0) and my Izzy (my fro) just loves it.

Hope that helps!
Originally Posted by ellepixie
OMG I have that mango butter in my bathroom but for some reason have never used on my hair. I like on my skin. Thanks for that. Off to experiment some more after work!
4a/3c curls
Fine strands, not as densely-placed as I would like
Ayurvedic herbs are the TRUTH
Team Wash and Go!
iHerb code:UYA010 - get 5% off your first purchase

Yo Cali, when did you get nice?

Anywho, BP, she gave you a LOT of awesome tips - EVOO and honey is my favorite deep treatment and if your hair is dry I recommend trying to deep condition 3x a week until it's back on track. You can also use tea tree oil for itchy scalp.

Aloe Vera gel is also an awesome moisturizer that can help separate your curls some. It's also soothing to the scalp. You can get 99% AV from Trader Joe's (It's like $3) or 100% from Fruit of the Earth, which is usually at Rite Aid or the grocery store.

Shea butter and mango butter also help seal moisture into the hair - if you don't want a "wet" look I recommend using a butter or moisturizer with these ingredients. My mango butter is from Nubian Heritage (http://www.iherb.com/Nubian-Heritage...4-g/16716?at=0) and my Izzy (my fro) just loves it.

Hope that helps!
Originally Posted by ellepixie
OMG I have that mango butter in my bathroom but for some reason have never used on my hair. I like on my skin. Thanks for that. Off to experiment some more after work!
Originally Posted by sagehen
MMM, Izzy loved it!! It absorbs into my hair so much better than shea and it smells SO GOOD. I walk around smelling like a smoothie!

Ummm okay BP, maybe you don't want that one?


And Cali...
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Yo Cali, when did you get nice?

Anywho, BP, she gave you a LOT of awesome tips - EVOO and honey is my favorite deep treatment and if your hair is dry I recommend trying to deep condition 3x a week until it's back on track. You can also use tea tree oil for itchy scalp.

Aloe Vera gel is also an awesome moisturizer that can help separate your curls some. It's also soothing to the scalp. You can get 99% AV from Trader Joe's (It's like $3) or 100% from Fruit of the Earth, which is usually at Rite Aid or the grocery store.

Shea butter and mango butter also help seal moisture into the hair - if you don't want a "wet" look I recommend using a butter or moisturizer with these ingredients. My mango butter is from Nubian Heritage (http://www.iherb.com/Nubian-Heritage...4-g/16716?at=0) and my Izzy (my fro) just loves it.

Hope that helps!
Originally Posted by ellepixie
OMG I have that mango butter in my bathroom but for some reason have never used on my hair. I like on my skin. Thanks for that. Off to experiment some more after work!
Originally Posted by sagehen
MMM, Izzy loved it!! It absorbs into my hair so much better than shea and it smells SO GOOD. I walk around smelling like a smoothie!

Ummm okay BP, maybe you don't want that one?


And Cali...
Originally Posted by ellepixie
LMAO omg where are you gettin these sh*ts from!
Quote:
Originally Posted by subbrock View Post
- don't let everybody elses long straight weave bum you out. don't let other people's big/long natural hair bum you out either. embrace what you have and rock it with confidence, because that's the only way you'll be happy. and whether you realize it or not you are somebody's influence. show them what it truly means to be confident.
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Lots of good suggestions. Moisture is key. I'll just add that your hair looks great, poof and all. Not all of us can rock a fro so effortlessly.
3c/4a OS curls
Poo: Mehandi Zizyphus Spina Christi and Juniper Shampoo Bar
Co-wash/Detangler/Leave-in: V05, Giovanni SAS, Tresemme Naturals, Suave Naturals, GVP Conditioning Balm, Aussie Moist
DC: henna, AOHR, AOWC, Yes to Carrots, DevaOne
Sealing: cocoa butter

Natural since 1990, BC #3 September 2008
I agree with everyone on the moisture. I also find periodic reconstructor helps with my curl definition because my hair likes mild protein. I want to add that I use to have really bad dandruff before I went natural. It went to a little dandruff and now none at all. I credit that I co-wash at least 3 times a week and shampoo once a week. That is keeping my scalp clean and itch free. I did find out that some oils make my scalp itch.
im a male with crazy fluffy, dry, itchy, poofy 4b hair.. i dont hate my hair as much as i hate how i cant make it look nice.. iv tried so many times to grow it out and make it look appealing but i fail, get mad and then cut it then regret cutting it and i have been doing this cycle for years now haha until i found this site.. im about 3/4 months into and about to go into the cutting stage.. i want my hair to have more "seperate" curl look.. not so fluffy.. right noow its a poof ball with no definition.. im looking for ANY ideas, home remedys or anything for my curls to seperate into defined curls and drop and not go straight up and poof out.. and without a wet look to if thats possible... this picture was about 10 years ago when i grew an afro and its a good example of what my hair turns into.
ThankYa! cody
Originally Posted by BrilloPad
Can I just say your hair is
awesome? It is. I wish I could do this for longer than 5 minutes.
Big chop: 5/30/10
CG, clarify with Aveda Brilliant Shampoo when needed
Dense, medium-fine strands, lowish porosity. Avoiding glycerin outside the shower.
Cowash:Suave Coconut Conditioner.
Leave in: YtCucumbers and EVOO
Styling Products: Flaxseed gel, Phillip B Soft Hold Gel, KMF Upper Management Gel
DC: Doctored GVP or Suave conditioner
Cleanser: Bentonite clay
im a male with crazy fluffy, dry, itchy, poofy 4b hair.. i dont hate my hair as much as i hate how i cant make it look nice.. iv tried so many times to grow it out and make it look appealing but i fail, get mad and then cut it then regret cutting it and i have been doing this cycle for years now haha until i found this site.. im about 3/4 months into and about to go into the cutting stage.. i want my hair to have more "seperate" curl look.. not so fluffy.. right noow its a poof ball with no definition.. im looking for ANY ideas, home remedys or anything for my curls to seperate into defined curls and drop and not go straight up and poof out.. and without a wet look to if thats possible... this picture was about 10 years ago when i grew an afro and its a good example of what my hair turns into.
ThankYa! cody
Originally Posted by BrilloPad
Can I just say your hair is
awesome? It is. I wish I could do this for longer than 5 minutes.
Originally Posted by moodydove
Yes!!!

And I second what all the ladies have said regarding moisture. My TWA was a mess for all of 2 weeks until I seriously upped the moisturizing & now it is like I have a different head of hair.
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LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
Mango butter???? Hhmmm sounds interesting, i'm getting tired of using my regular shea butter. I think it's a lil too heavy for my hair. Is Mango butter lighter?
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